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    Per Fred Silva(poundingthe rock), interesting recap of last nights game. Silva has a formula on ranking the players and Pop's performance last night.

    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...06-return-FARS

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    Joel Przybilla is still at large - but who knows how much he has to offer after multiple knee surgeries.

    Other than that it's a trade or hold what you've got.
    Przybilla is weighing retiring. Reportedly has multiple offers, but no decision yet.

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    We are not going to play any better defensive if Pop doesn't play Splitter or Green more minutes than they got last night. Sure, Green struggled in the beginning but pull him aside and put him back in game. He is still very young and mistakes are going to happen but he clearly can bring it on that side of the ball.

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    I wondered about the timeout, but Pop had been telling Tony to push the ball all night and Tony wasn't doing so. Were Ford not hurt, I have a feeling Tony would have been on the bench. Tony would walk the ball up, stand near the halfcourt for a while, then start his dribble penetration attempt (a few of which resulted in turnovers) before doing everything in his power to get himself a shot.

    He ignored (didn't overlook) RJ wide open beyond the arc several times to pull up and take a contested jumper.

    Kobe Parker, ladies and gentlemen.

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    I have a couple of serious questions, Timvp.

    The first is about Duncan. You said that this was an A performance, and that it was about as well as Tim is going to play at this stage of his career. It was sort of a reality check for me. Aren't you saying that the best we can expect from Tim now is about a B+ performance? I also would have graded his first and second half a lot differently. Do you think he's capable of playing at an A level (for him) for more than 30 minutes?

    The other is about Danny Green, and the comment about him trying to do too much on the defensive end (which I agree with). I thought he looked okay when he first came into the game. But when he wound up on the floor with Bonner and Jefferson, I thought he got caught trying to cheat over to help them a couple of times. We've gotten used to expecting crap defense from those two guys. Do you think it's possible for someone like Green to get scapegoated by being on the floor with them?

    For that matter, Green started the second quarter playing with Bonner, Jefferson, Blair, and Parker. That group was going to get torched no matter what. And, in fact, even after Green was replaced by Leonard, they kept getting torched. It was that second quarter that really lost the game, and I just don't think that Danny Green played defense any worse than the guys who stayed in the game. So I'll ask it again - do you think it's possible for someone like Danny Green to get scapegoated just by being on the floor with a group that is playing crappy defense?

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    tony parker suckin as usual only showing up when game on the line so he can pull a kobe to make it look like he won us the game, when we were playin like doghouse catchin up...

    it is what it is

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    Per Fred Silva(poundingthe rock), interesting recap of last nights game. Silva has a formula on ranking the players and Pop's performance last night.

    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...06-return-FARS
    ..pretty interesting read...

    now just watch tonight...

    I fully expect senile Pop to bench Kawhi Leonard for absolutely no ing reason....

    Fun times in Pop's rapidly increasing dementia...

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    Per Fred Silva(poundingthe rock), interesting recap of last nights game. Silva has a formula on ranking the players and Pop's performance last night.

    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...06-return-FARS
    Nice read. Funny as .

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    Per Fred Silva(poundingthe rock), interesting recap of last nights game. Silva has a formula on ranking the players and Pop's performance last night.

    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/...06-return-FARS
    That's good stuff.

    -10 for not rating Bonner into the bottom 3 though.

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    The first is about Duncan. You said that this was an A performance, and that it was about as well as Tim is going to play at this stage of his career. It was sort of a reality check for me. Aren't you saying that the best we can expect from Tim now is about a B+ performance?
    Yeah, it's fair to say that a performance that would have been a B+ last year would translate to an A this year.

    Do you think he's capable of playing at an A level (for him) for more than 30 minutes?
    Probably won't happen very often. About once every 8-10 games I'd think.

    But when he wound up on the floor with Bonner and Jefferson, I thought he got caught trying to cheat over to help them a couple of times. We've gotten used to expecting crap defense from those two guys. Do you think it's possible for someone like Green to get scapegoated by being on the floor with them?
    Yeah, it's possible. Green probably was trying to do too much because there was so much that needed to be done -- if that makes sense.

    I was actually just looking at the plus/minus numbers from last night and this kinda fits in with this subject you brought up:

    Kawhi was on the floor with Bonner for 17.5 minutes. During that time, the Bucks scored at a rate of 123.4 points per 48 minutes.

    Kawhi was on the floor without Bonner for 15.5 minutes. During that time, the Bucks scored at a rate of 80.5 points per 48 minutes.

    So the stats say when Kawhi didn't have the human speed bump behind him, the Spurs were elite defensively. Otherwise, they were pretty damn bad. Watching the game, the stats pretty much backup what I would have guessed.

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    Rating Bonner low based on his ty defense and basically being lost and useless is like rating Rainman low for the same reasons.

    You blame the person who put the re in the game, you don't blame the re .

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    So the stats say when Kawhi didn't have the human speed bump behind him, the Spurs were elite defensively. Otherwise, they were pretty damn bad. Watching the game, the stats pretty much backup what I would have guessed.
    That's the problem with Pop trying to play his bad defenders with the good defenders. It's like trying to cover a leak with something that isn't big enough. Pop needs to begin games with a lineup that sets a defensive tone.

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