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    You don't believe iden y theft and registration fraud can be crimes?
    Oh please...

    No fraudulent vote was cast or even attempted to be cast.

    It was done to prove how easy it was to do and they immediately gave the ballots back...

    Seriously...

    Is this worth prosecuting? If so, what should the sentence be?

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    Oh please...

    No fraudulent vote was cast or even attempted to be cast.

    It was done to prove how easy it was to do and they immediately gave the ballots back...

    Seriously...

    Is this worth prosecuting? If so, what should the sentence be?
    The obtaining of the ballot in and of itself might have been the illegal act tbh. he should get probation or a couple years in the slam.

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    The ID crap to vote is simply a GOP plan to reduce votes. Plain and simple to say otherwise is simply just not true.

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    The ID crap to vote is simply a GOP plan to reduce votes. Plain and simple to say otherwise is simply just not true.
    Who doesn't have an ID?

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    Seriously...

    Is this worth prosecuting? If so, what should the sentence be?
    now CC suggests that videotaped registration fraud is not worth prosecuting. did world turn upside down, or is CC standing on his head?

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    now CC suggests that videotaped registration fraud is not worth prosecuting. did world turn upside down, or is CC standing on his head?
    You seriously think it's worth prosecution and a trial? Again, what do you consider an appropriate punishment?

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    Again, what do you consider an appropriate punishment?
    no/minimal jail time plus whatever the appropriate fine is

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    Oh please...

    No fraudulent vote was cast or even attempted to be cast.

    It was done to prove how easy it was to do and they immediately gave the ballots back...

    Seriously...

    Is this worth prosecuting? If so, what should the sentence be?
    You didn't answer the question.

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    You didn't answer the question.
    Neither did you.

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    Oh please...

    No fraudulent vote was cast or even attempted to be cast.

    It was done to prove how easy it was to do and they immediately gave the ballots back...

    Seriously...

    Is this worth prosecuting? If so, what should the sentence be?
    a crime was committed so yes it should be prosecuted. As far as the sentence, I would say on the lower side of the standard.

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    a crime was committed so yes it should be prosecuted. As far as the sentence, I would say on the lower side of the standard.
    Yet you guys will defend all day not prosecuting illegal aliens...

    a little hypocrisy here?

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    being an illegal alien isn't a crime. yet.

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    Answer mine, then I'll be glad to answer yours.

    Do you consider the iden y theft to obtain a government do ent a crime?

    Yes or no.

    Do you consider voter registration using a stolen iden y a crime?

    Yes or no.

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    Yet you guys will defend all day not prosecuting illegal aliens...

    a little hypocrisy here?
    Who? My position has been stated over and over again. I have no problem with prosecuting illegal aliens. I have taken flak from those left of me (as well as other moderates) for this position. I also think that this position is highly inefficient so I think we should be implementing astronomical fines for companies that hire illegals instead. I think that this would be a much more efficient use of limited resources than trying to track and find individual people.

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    being an illegal alien isn't a crime. yet.
    Disagree, they broke the law by crossing illegally/staying past their visa.

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    breaking immigration law isn't a crime, but an administrative violation

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    Yet you guys will defend all day not prosecuting illegal aliens...

    a little hypocrisy here?
    I'm all for deporting O'Keefe to save the legal costs of a trial, but I'm not sure that's how it works.

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    Yet you guys will defend all day not prosecuting illegal aliens...
    way to shift the focus

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    breaking immigration law isn't a crime, but an administrative violation
    A rose by any other name? Do you get punished if you get caught? Is a record made?

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    Answer mine, then I'll be glad to answer yours.

    Do you consider the iden y theft to obtain a government do ent a crime?

    Yes or no.

    Do you consider voter registration using a stolen iden y a crime?

    Yes or no.
    Yes it is technically illegal.

    The intent of the statute is to prevent fraudulent votes from being cast in an election.

    No fraudulent votes were cast or attempted to be cast.

    The whole point was to prove how easy it was to cast an illegal vote in the current system.

    I could show up at your polling place and say I'm chumpdumper and cast a vote for my choice under the current law because I don't have to show an ID.

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    way to shift the focus
    Straw is his favorite medium.

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    I'm all for deporting O'Keefe to save the legal costs of a trial, but I'm not sure that's how it works.
    If we are trying to climb back into the upper echelon educationally, this suggestion may serve a dual purpose.

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    administrative law<> criminal law

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