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red herring is his favorite fish
I am recently deceased?
Oh, my.
red herring is his favorite fish
administrative law does not codify crimes, nor are violators punished as criminals.
Sorry for lumping you with them.
Administrative violation...
While this sounds like WC's subsidy/tax break distinction. I don't feel like arguing it in this thread, so you win. Can we get back to laughing at CC for not wanting to prosecute a criminal??
let's get back to the topic at hand: you getting your ass handed to you for defending O'keefe.Sorry for lumping you with them.
Administrative violation...
nothing alike. the distinction is real. look it up.
How did O'Keefe make us look foolish in this case?
How did he ever make us look foolish?
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There are plenty of people who don't have an ID.
Again, lets get this staight...I think that OKeefe is an over the top attention thats about a half bubble off and I have no affection for him at all...
BUT
He really does do a fairly effective job of poking holes in classic progressive positions...
In this case resisting having voters show ID's to vote...
He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how easy it is to cast a fraudulent vote without showing an ID.
And the more you guys talk about him and the media talks about him the more effective he is...
Like who? How do you live in this country legally without an ID?
I thought it was already a requirement. I have always shown my ID when voting. How else would they know who I am? (sorry I am a little behind on administrative law :LOL)
it's trueAdministrative violation...
if it wasn't, there'd be no need for any bid to make undo ented aliens subject to criminal law for immigration violations
He actually showed it's quite difficult to commit the kind of massive vote fraud Republican scare mongers claim happen every election but never prove.Again, lets get this staight...I think that OKeefe is an over the top attention thats about a half bubble off and I have no affection for him at all...
BUT
He really does do a fairly effective job of poking holes in classic progressive positions...
In this case resisting having voters show ID's to vote...
He proved beyond a shadow of a doubt how easy it is to cast a fraudulent vote without showing an ID.
And the more you guys talk about him and the media talks about him the more effective he is...
Speaking of straw men...He actually showed it's quite difficult to commit the kind of massive vote fraud Republican scare mongers claim happen every election but never prove.
And what is so heinous about just asking for people to show their ID to vote?
How is that a straw man? It's the bogeyman O'Keefe claims he is fighting here.
In many cases, it becomes a poll tax. And yes, there are many people who don't have an ID. Given the paucity of actual vote fraud cases and convictions in this country, it's a solution looking for a problem.
"their ID to vote?"
a lot of poor and young people (Dem voters) don't have IDs, would be disenfranchised, which is exactly what the Repugs want with their fraudulent rampant-voter-fraud strategy.
So it's only tens of thousands or maybe a couple hundred thousand but not MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD so it's OK.
Got it. But lets throw the book at the guy that showed how easy it was and DIDN'T vote.
How does getting an ID become a poll tax? ...you can't get a legal job or pay income tax without an ID, much less drive or cash a check. What is the fear here?
As far as I'm concerned if someone is living off the grid and not paying taxes (breaking the law by not reporting income) then they don't deserve to vote.
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What is your proof it's tens of thousands?
Link please.
Straw man.Got it. But lets throw the book at the guy that showed how easy it was and DIDN'T vote.
I expect you to play dumb at this point.How does getting an ID become a poll tax? ...you can't get a legal job or pay income tax without an ID, much less drive or cash a check. What is the fear here?
Straw man.As far as I'm concerned if someone is living off the grid and not paying taxes (breaking the law by not reporting income) then they don't deserve to vote.
And you continue to duck and dodge. nip, nip, nip, little ankle biter but never a real position or actual counter. Whats your proof it's not tens of thousands? What number would you rather use?
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