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    Hmm...doesn't this work both ways though?
    Yes, absolutely. I'm just suggesting YH do some introspection. He's complaining that women these days don't have morals, so that's why he just " s em" instead of getting involved in relationships.

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    See what you did, Fin?
    So what brought this on?
    oh cmon dude don't play the role of the guy who puts pussy on a pedestal. it isn't flattering at all.

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    Yes, absolutely. I'm just suggesting YH do some introspection. He's complaining that women these days don't have morals, so that's why he just " s em" instead of getting involved in relationships.
    I was quoting a song and actually haven't " ed" anything since I got screwed over by my ex about 6 months ago, if you must judge me and crawl so far up my ass. i'm okay with admitting that. i kinda lost the drive for that whole "relationships with women" thing. burned out and taking a break to finish school tbh.

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    See what you did, Fin?
    So what brought this on?
    I just think it's an interesting topic and I'm tired of male bashing. There are good people and jackholes in both genders, and there's just not enough discussion of the role that women are playing when it comes to the decline of marriage - some of it is women having more opportunities in the workplace and delaying getting married and starting a family, and some of it is female en lement and maturity issues. It's unfair to single out one gender or the other for this phenomenon. And also, why is it so bad if a person is not married? It doesn't make them a failure at life.

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    oh cmon dude don't play the role of the guy who puts pussy on a pedestal. it isn't flattering at all.
    Quit talking out of your ass then I'll respond to what you ask.

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    "being nice" might not even crack the top ten in ways to get a nice woman

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    I love my wife and I love being married to her...but I can definitely understand the sentiments of those who don't want to be married. If something were to happen to my wife I seriously doubt I'd get married again. It took a lot of work to get where we are in our relationship today and the thought of having to start all of that over again is pretty unappealing.

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    LOL Women

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    Quit talking out of your ass then I'll respond to what you ask.
    talking out of my ass? the divorce rates, statistics, and outright personal experiences don't lie. i just think it's all a dumb game at this point. not saying everyone is like that, but you'd better really tread lightly before you do something stupid. men really do have a lot to lose, the laws just aren't fair as they are.

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    cohabitation ftw!!!

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    marriage is a money making scam. the average wedding in the us costs $27,000

    for one day???? that

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    cohabitation ftw!!!
    AGREED scroh.

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    I love my wife and I love being married to her...but I can definitely understand the sentiments of those who don't want to be married. If something were to happen to my wife I seriously doubt I'd get married again. It took a lot of work to get where we are in our relationship today and the thought of having to start all of that over again is pretty unappealing.
    I kind of feel the same way.

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    marriage is a money making scam. the average wedding in the us costs $27,000

    for one day???? that
    But daddy's little princess has dreamed of this day ever since she was a little girl she's en led to a glamorous wedding

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    But daddy's little princess has dreamed of this day ever since she was a little girl she's en led to a glamorous wedding
    with a huge shiny rock that finances war!!!!!

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    And also, why is it so bad if a person is not married? It doesn't make them a failure at life.
    To this I 100% agree. I believe marriage (in some ways) is an archaic social norm that you're supposed to have done by a certain age--or else you're stigmatized as immature, a loner, or gay(). I had a close call last year and was on the cusp of proposing to my g/f (as I told a couple people here), but I got cold feet and ended up breaking off the relationship soon after. I still feel bad about it, but the fact of the matter is 1)I honestly wasn't ready for it due to selfish reasons and 2) I felt undue pressure from everybody to get married and it made me claustrophobic and uncomfortable.

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    To this I 100% agree. I believe marriage (in some ways) is an archaic social norm that you're supposed to have done by a certain age--or else you're stigmatized as immature, a loner, or gay(). I had a close call last year and was on the cusp of proposing to my g/f (as I told a couple people here), but I got cold feet and ended up breaking off the relationship soon after. I still feel bad about it, but the fact of the matter is 1)I honestly wasn't ready for it due to selfish reasons and 2) I felt undue pressure from everybody to get married and it made me claustrophobic and uncomfortable.
    I never understood why people feel this way. This is exactly what happened in my relationship pretty much, we were getting serious and the pressure of that combined with the fact that she was selfish as and saw that she wasn't going to be able to push me around and she may actually not be able to have her way for the rest of her life freaked her out and made her me over basically for fun, no real reason at all

    Couldn't you have just been honest and put it off without throwing everything away? I mean didn't she mean something to you at all?

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    marriage is a money making scam. the average wedding in the us costs $27,000

    for one day???? that
    No .

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    on a similar note, i dont get the mentality of women who give the ultimatum of "where is this going? marriage or we should just break up.

    How the can you, on one hand want to spend the rest of your life with someone, but on the other you can go on living your life without em?????

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    marriage is a money making scam. the average wedding in the us costs $27,000

    for one day???? that
    tuxedo rental = $150.00

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    I never understood why people feel this way. This is exactly what happened in my relationship pretty much, we were getting serious and the pressure of that combined with the fact that she was selfish as and saw that she wasn't going to be able to push me around and she may actually not be able to have her way for the rest of her life freaked her out and made her me over basically for fun, no real reason at all

    Couldn't you have just been honest and put it off without throwing everything away? I mean didn't she mean something to you at all?
    Yes, I still have regrets about it cause I honestly did love her and it was a rotten thing to do (never felt more uncomfortable about a break-up in my life), but in retrospect I believe I did the right thing, but probably went about it the wrong way. It's complicated...like all relationships

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    I just think it's an interesting topic and I'm tired of male bashing. There are good people and jackholes in both genders, and there's just not enough discussion of the role that women are playing when it comes to the decline of marriage - some of it is women having more opportunities in the workplace and delaying getting married and starting a family, and some of it is female en lement and maturity issues. It's unfair to single out one gender or the other for this phenomenon. And also, why is it so bad if a person is not married? It doesn't make them a failure at life.
    I see, but wasn't that a male bashing article? I just recall one paragraph where he called out women. <shrugs> I thought maybe something happened in your recent endeavors. I remember you made another thread a while back, I think, about dating someone.....

    I know what you mean about is it bad if a person isn't married. I get that feeling a lot from aunts, uncles, cousins and some friends. I'm getting up there and ive seen many relationships/marriages in my life to know that its not all sunshine and lollipops, which makes me wonder why they give me that feeling in the first place.

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    I love my wife and I love being married to her...but I can definitely understand the sentiments of those who don't want to be married. If something were to happen to my wife I seriously doubt I'd get married again. It took a lot of work to get where we are in our relationship today and the thought of having to start all of that over again is pretty unappealing.
    Extremely well said. If something happened to my marriage, I would never get married again.

    I put way too much time, effort and attention into this one and I will never do it again for completely selfish reasons. I love my wife and we have a ridiculously awesome relationship that we dont even talk about it except with one another because we know how it will sound to others, but it took 12 years (3 dating, 5 living together, 4 married) to get where we are.

    If this ended for whatever reason, I would be emotionally crushed to a degree I dont wish to think about. I would never invest emotionally again as long as I lived.

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    Yes, I still have regrets about it cause I honestly did love her and it was a rotten thing to do (never felt more uncomfortable about a break-up in my life), but in retrospect I believe I did the right thing, but probably went about it the wrong way. It's complicated...like all relationships
    Do you think that it had to be all or nothing? It sucks if your extended family was putting pressure on you, but I'm just wondering if your relationship could have been salvaged, since as you said you did love her. It's a huge, life-altering decision and I agree it makes absolutely no sense to make a 40-yard dash to the altar. I just think it would be a shame to let outside influences such as aunts and uncles nagging you affect a good thing. You say you weren't ready, but is it something you could have been ready for in a year or two? What do you think needed to change for you to be ready? Is it something you want at all, like the closer you got the more you realized that you're not sure if marriage is something you can pull off? Or did you feel like it was intimidating to take on such adult responsibilities, but you want it down the road?

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    saw that she wasn't going to be able to push me around and she may actually not be able to have her way for the rest of her life
    How so?
    me over basically for fun, no real reason at all
    What did she do?

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