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    Big in Japan GSH's Avatar
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    Having productive veterans on a team is never a bad thing. However, the notion of trying to patch your roster with older, past-their-prime veterans, who have clearly exceeded their shelf life is an overly-sentimental idea and short-sighted approach. It's also one that is counterproductive. Older players cannot play every night, they're injury-prone and they become progress-stoppers. Why would any team give a roster spot to semi-retired vets like Michael Finley and Jerry Stackhouse over a young promising, and possibly cheaper, player who plays the same position? It just makes no sense.

    There is an old saying that anytime an athlete is pondering retirement, he or she already has retired. Let it go people. At some point, it's over for all athletes.

    I agree with nearly everything you say.

    Have you looked at our frontcourt lately?

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    Edit: Seriously, though... did you watch Rasheed in the playoffs with the Celtics? There was almost no dropoff between him and Big Baby. And if you look at the numbers, they say the same thing. 'Sheed's per/36 numbers from the playoffs are almost identical to Davis'. People in Boston were pissed, because they wanted him to be the Rasheed of old - and he wasn't. But for 18-20 minutes per game, that version of Rasheed Wallace would be the best interior defender on this team not named Duncan.

    Same goes for McDyess. And an extra 36 minutes of competent interior defense would make one of a difference right now. (Like I said, one of them wouldn't be enough. But both of them together would.) It's not like we'd have a problem with roster spots. And it's not like we have some young prospect big that would be losing valuable minutes.

    Under normal cir stances, you're dead right about old guys. These aren't normal cir stances. The Warriors are desperate for a big man, and word is they are considering: Alexis Ajinca, Hilton Armstrong, Dan Gadzuric, D.J. Mbenga, Joel Przybilla, Theo Ratliff and Etan Thomas. I'd take Rasheed and Dice in their last seasons, as is, over any of those stiffs.

    It may be ugly. , it IS ugly. But unless we can trade Bonner for a center, that's the way things are gonna stay.
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    I agree with nearly everything you say.

    Have you looked at our frontcourt lately?

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    Edit: Seriously, though... did you watch Rasheed in the playoffs with the Celtics? There was almost no dropoff between him and Big Baby. And if you look at the numbers, they say the same thing. 'Sheed's per/36 numbers from the playoffs are almost identical to Davis'. People in Boston were pissed, because they wanted him to be the Rasheed of old - and he wasn't. But for 18-20 minutes per game, that version of Rasheed Wallace would be the best interior defender on this team not named Duncan.

    Same goes for McDyess. And an extra 36 minutes of competent interior defense would make one of a difference right now. (Like I said, one of them wouldn't be enough. But both of them together would.) It's not like we'd have a problem with roster spots. And it's not like we have some young prospect big that would be losing valuable minutes.

    Under normal cir stances, you're dead right about old guys. These aren't normal cir stances. The Warriors are desperate for a big man, and word is they are considering: Alexis Ajinca, Hilton Armstrong, Dan Gadzuric, D.J. Mbenga, Joel Przybilla, Theo Ratliff and Etan Thomas. I'd take Rasheed and Dice in their last seasons, as is, over any of those stiffs.

    It may be ugly. , it IS ugly. But unless we can trade Bonner for a center, that's the way things are gonna stay.
    There's no doubt that the it IS indeed UGLY - from both sides. I wouldn't want any of these stiffs (new or semi-retired). In fact, if that's all that's left in the free-agent bargain basement bigman bin, I'd just as soon wait until the NBA draft.

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    Since the Spurs waived McDyess, I'm pretty sure they can't re-sign him this season. Otherwise, it would cir vent the salary savings since his contract this year was only half guaranteed.

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    I'd much rather have Bonner.

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    Please say NONE of you are serious about Sheed !!!!! Damn ya'll are scaring the out of me. He would set back the growth of the young players on the team more than help us. I would rather resign Lawal than sign Sheed.

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    From what I saw of him the last couple of years, he is much less and interior presence and does more away from the basket. We have too many players like that already.

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    "All that bull -ass calls they had out there. With Mike Callahan and Kenny Mauer -- you've all seen that ," Wallace said.

    "You saw them calls. The cats are flopping all over the floor and they're calling that . That ain't basketball out there. It's all ing entertainment. You all should know that . It's all ing entertainment."

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    No way, no how. Dude's a knucklehead and there's no way he'd be in shape or able to stay in shape. I'd rather have Horry back. Out of shape and all.

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