the problem is saying someone is the goat is very subjective...from a pure scientific standpoint similar to binary code...1 is on and 0 is off - MJ is not the goat...just ask Stephen Hawking...Kareem is the GOAT in scoring, Hakeem is the GOAT in blocked shots, Russell the GOAT in rings, Magic the GOAT in team play / assists, Reggie Miller the GOAT in 3 point clutchness, MJ the goat in bringing excitement to the game and selling shoes to the black community... ( those dumb ers)
bottom line there is no single goat...and if I'm starting a team I start that team with a prime Magic not MJ. Magic could literally play 5 positions MJ only 2...the day that MJ can switch from being a 2 guard to guarding Kareem, Shaq, or Duncan like Magic could then I'd consider him the better player than the Magic man...
As for Kobe he's the embodiment of them all...MJ was more athletic, more fierce, more determined, and a better mid-range and post player than Kobe but Kobe was a better scorer, facilitator, had better range and more skilled...
MJ didn't play against Lebron's, Wade's, Derrick Rose's and all the multiple great defennders thrown at him on a nightly basis like Bowen, Patterson, Christie, and others...the one stopper that did check MJ the best ended up playing with him in D-Rodman. So no MJ didn't face the same level or quality player that's in the NBA today...and save the hand-checking arguement...
The refs were in the pocket for MJ they even brought women for him knowing he was married. I can't make this stuff up..this fact is all over the internet...Here's the smoking gun:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/do en...michael-jordanKnafel said she was introduced to Jordan in early 1989 by NBA referee Ed Rush.
He played against all those guys as a 39 year old Wizard and still averaged 20 + on 44% shooting.the problem is saying someone is the goat is very subjective...from a pure scientific standpoint similar to binary code...1 is on and 0 is off - MJ is not the goat...just ask Stephen Hawking...Kareem is the GOAT in scoring, Hakeem is the GOAT in blocked shots, Russell the GOAT in rings, Magic the GOAT in team play / assists, Reggie Miller the GOAT in 3 point clutchness, MJ the goat in bringing excitement to the game and selling shoes to the black community... ( those dumb ers)
bottom line there is no single goat...and if I'm starting a team I start that team with a prime Magic not MJ. Magic could literally play 5 positions MJ only 2...the day that MJ can switch from being a 2 guard to guarding Kareem, Shaq, or Duncan like Magic could then I'd consider him the better player than the Magic man...
As for Kobe he's the embodiment of them all...MJ was more athletic, more fierce, more determined, and a better mid-range and post player than Kobe but Kobe was a better scorer, facilitator, had better range and more skilled...
MJ didn't play against Lebron's, Wade's, Derrick Rose's and all the multiple great defennders thrown at him on a nightly basis like Bowen, Patterson, Christie, and others...the one stopper that did check MJ the best ended up playing with him in D-Rodman. So no MJ didn't face the same level or quality player that's in the NBA today...and save the hand-checking arguement...
The refs were in the pocket for MJ they even brought women for him knowing he was married. I can't make this stuff up..this fact is all over the internet...Here's the smoking gun:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/do en...michael-jordan
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kobe.
in' deal with it. Now if you want to talk up your boy Magic in a comparison, you have an argument. But not with Kobe.
As a 39 year MJ was literally given a pass by most players because he was MJ...with one notable exception...Kobe dropping 55 on his ass...
Flukes happen. Remember when Kobe let Arenas drop 60 on him? Gilbert in' ArenasAs a 39 year MJ was literally given a pass by most players because he was MJ...with one notable exception...Kobe dropping 55 on his ass...
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ko be
Deal with it.
This is the new Kult of Kobe spin? There is more than one GOAT? There'd better be, because your boy will NEVER unseat Jordan.
Flukes happen. Remember when Kobe let Arenas drop 60 on him? Gilbert in' Arenas
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ko be
Deal with it.
I remember. Remind me, midnight, when was the last time Duncan let someone drop 60 on him?
arenas did get 60 but Kobe was not guarding him for all of that game. But I ll give arenas credit, when they did switch him over it was too late. Gil was hot and no one stopped him. , I remember Labradford Smith (?) small guard from Washington lighting up MJ ...even the GOAT get lit up from time to time.Flukes happen. Remember when Kobe let Arenas drop 60 on him? Gilbert in' Arenas
MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ko be
Deal with it.
I also recall Amare taking duncan's lunch money ... it happens.
And i don't get how people still fight and shoot people over Jordan's shoes! there have been only 3 or 4 in the whole official Jordan line that I would s out bucks for ... the XXIII's, the patent leathers, and there was some mid ones with grey in them (maybe the VI's IIRC) most of them are way too ugly and over-priced. But Jay-z and the like have made them in to essential urban wear for the hood and the "wigger culture". I love seeing women on welfare or that have to ride the train or bus wearing J's with a 18 month old on their arms with matching J's ...while MJ laughs all the way to the bank. Priorities are so out of wack in the hood sometimes ... buying J's while their rent check is late
That's when they came from all across this great land to our nation's capitol and stood in line to each in turn take a piece of MJ's ass for their own.
And MJ, he had no choice but to let 'em. It was sad....like Mays playing center field for the Mets.
Wrong again, welcher! Stockton is the GOAT in assists. Unless you are going to pussy foot around your previous argument that all time stats are the end all/be all of greatness. Let's see youthe problem is saying someone is the goat is very subjective...from a pure scientific standpoint similar to binary code...1 is on and 0 is off - MJ is not the goat...just ask Stephen Hawking...Kareem is the GOAT in scoring, Hakeem is the GOAT in blocked shots, Russell the GOAT in rings, Magic the GOAT in team play / assists, Reggie Miller the GOAT in 3 point clutchness, MJ the goat in bringing excitement to the game and selling shoes to the black community... ( those dumb ers)
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/do en...michael-jordanthat !
^Dunc,,,with his cherry picking sissy ass.
Just curious, is this on side A or side B of your broken record?
Does it matter?
I don't need to spin ...if I misspoke then I misspoke...look at my avatar and see that I am kind..kiss kiss and bang bangWrong again, welcher! Stockton is the GOAT in assists. Unless you are going to pussy foot around your previous argument that all time stats are the end all/be all of greatness. Let's see you
Magic > MJ
20 pts, 1.5 steals, 6.1 reb. per game...at the age of 39...Kobe won't touch it...
MJ has the highest career ppg average of any player. Around 5 ppg more than Kobe.
Hakeem is top in blocks only becase Kareem's first seasons blocks are not accounted. Neither were acounted when Wilt and Russel played.
And Media right by his side. Won't do him any good on this Forum though. Everybody he'd ever done dirt to came to D.C. and took a piece of his ass.
"but Kobe was a better scorer, facilitator, had better range and more skilled..."
"So no MJ didn't face the same level or quality player that's in the NBA today"
- MJ had more game winning ASSISTS than Kobe had game winning shots
- MJ averaged 37 points per game in the 80's when defense was at an all time high
- MJ never lost in the Finals
- MJ never quit on his team in the playoffs
- MJ never missed the playoffs in his prime
Not even close
& MJ couldn't ring without Pippen.
Come on Culby... you're better than thatAnd Media right by his side
No. I'm right. It's like his D.C. years never happened as far as Media is concerned. Nobody, aside from the unwashed(us) even cite it. Let Kobe pull a stunt like that at the end. Sure, they'll put up a wall like they did for MJ, but, they'll let somebody thru every so often to remind Kobe and the unwashed(us) of the results.
Nobody, and I mean nobody ever mentions his D.C. years in broad daylight. No ing way.
Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!!!
It's the same reason you don't hear Kobe's 2004 chuckfest in the Finals or his 3 year hiatus trying to be team leader... there's nothing to remember about those years.
Do you hear Wilbon bringing that up? No, you don't.
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