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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    Great, great article.

    First, let’s look at the regularized adjusted +/- (RAPM) for this year alone. There is a decent amount of error when looking at this sample size, but it’s a good starting place. Here are the top 20 players according to the amount of love they got in All-Defensive team votes this year, sorted from best to worst by defensive RAPM:



    Below Grant Hill

    But will still make a in' all-defensive team.

    Over his career:



    Is the trend clear? There have been 3 players who’ve dominated the All-Defensive team for the past decade: Bryant, Garnett, and Tim Duncan. Over any extended period, Garnett dominates the list, Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom.

    Being at the bottom is visually striking, but it’s actually not that damning in and of itself. If my knock on Kobe was that he was only the 20th best defender in the league on average, this would not be that horrendous of a knock. After all, big men dominate these kind of lists, maybe he’s still one of the top 5 or so perimeter defenders in the game, no?

    No. The more damning thing is that every metric I’ve broken down here has Kobe’s defensive impact as utterly average. -0.8, -0.6, 0.1, 0.1, these are not numbers of someone who is consistently a game changer on defense. The other guys given even half the love Kobe’s gotten over the year, pretty consistently do turn up on these metric doing quite well.

    http://asubs uteforwar.com/2011/05...er-imaginable/

    Kirk Hinrich level defender!
    Last edited by midnightpulp; 01-16-2012 at 06:55 PM.

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    PETA sucks! Spur_Fanatic's Avatar
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    Dude, Kobe when facing a decent G cant defend , cause he need all his energy powa to cuck shots after shots, waaaaaha,,..

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    I've stated plenty of times that Bryant stopped playing defense once Ariza showed up. Then it was Artest. Even on the Shaq teams the Lakers had Rick Fox & George.

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    Only pussies & assholes do RAPM.

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    Kobe used to be a good defender, but just stopped putting in the effort a few years ago. Anyways, accolades are awarded to popular players.

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    Only pussies & assholes do RAPM.
    In case you haven't noticed, your standards mean nothing, since even you don't adhere to them.

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    Only pussies & assholes do RAPM.
    "Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom."

    Zing!

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Only pussies & assholes do RAPM.

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    "Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom."

    Zing!

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    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Only pussies and assholes do RAPM.

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    asubs uteforwar.com?

    Doesn't sound very reliable, tbh. In fact it sounds like one man's libelous campaign against the greatest player of our generation. For shame.

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    asubs uteforwar.com?

    Doesn't sound very reliable, tbh. In fact it sounds like one man's libelous campaign against the greatest player of our generation. For shame.
    "When you can't refute the argument, attack the source."

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    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    "When you can't refute the argument, attack the source."
    It's the Republican way, what can I say.

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    Veteran dunkman's Avatar
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    Intersting . . .

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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    "When you can't refute the argument, attack the source."
    Hey midget....no matter what form of math you like using...addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, trig, geometry, algebra, calculus, one simple fact remains...


    5 is greater than 4

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    Hey midget....no matter what form of math you like using...addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, trig, geometry, algebra, calculus, one simple fact remains...


    5 is greater than 4
    Rings are team accomplishments, though. Just like:

    Manu: 3

    Jerry West: 1

    Kirk Hinrich level defender.

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    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    Nothing but fuzzy math in the OP, tbh

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    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    more all-nba defensive 1st teams than duncan u mad?

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    more all-nba defensive 1st teams than duncan u mad?
    "Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom."

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    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    "Duncan is near the top of the list, and Bryant is pretty much at the bottom."
    Does anybody care?

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    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    You obviously do since you took the time to reply.

    Kirk Hinrich level defender

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