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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    I don't think I've ever posted anything in this forum related to politics but this is a bit different because in a way its very Spurs related.

    Imagine if someone here posted an illegal gif or if someone posted a wall paper they made of Tony Parker made with an image they did not have rights to use. Imagine that as a result, with no due process, Spurstalk is SHUT DOWN and we lose the place where we've talked about this team for damn near a decade. There's almost always copyright violations on every page on this forum and for the most part they are innocent and don't cost anyone money. Your avatar is probably a copyrighted image, for example.

    If SOPA passes, this is not something you'll have to imagine because it will definitely occur on at least one if not many websites you currently visit. You've probably seen a blacked out site or two today out of the many you visit on a daily basis (or if you haven't already chances are that you will). The issue is really central to any use of the internet and its one that really deserves at least a few minutes of your attention.

    Find out where your representatives stand on the issue and take a few minutes to sign an online pe ion (or 2) and send a form letter to your reps. If you can, take a few more and call them and let them know you expect them to vote against the issue.

    http://www.opencongress.org

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    SOPA not gonna happen. these millionaires in their ivory towers are living in fantasy land.

    once you wake up the wrath of the internet you are bound to get burned. just look at godaddy.com

    http://techcrunch.com/2011/12/29/bur...-opposes-sopa/

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    meh ..........

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    In essence, Iranian/Chinese/North Korean type of laws dressed up as anti-piracy. Disgraceful.

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    In essence, American type of laws dressed up as anti-piracy. Disgraceful.

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    signed

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Just to give you perspective, when Kori and Timvp got that letter from then EN that would have been enough to just forget about the letter and shut the site down under SOPA.

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    Let it pass. Then we can see if it's really worth protesting or if it's just another instance of the doomsayer internet masses dramatizing unsubstantial events out of a sense of pseudointellectual gallantry.

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    whatever you do, don't vote for the corrupt assholes that support it:

    http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/

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    Let it pass. Then we can see if it's really worth protesting or if it's just another instance of the doomsayer internet masses dramatizing unsubstantial events out of a sense of pseudointellectual gallantry.
    LOL once this passes, it would be irreversible.

    Why don't we cut off our right hand and see if it was really worth not doing it.

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    LOL once this passes, it would be irreversible.
    Right, because all laws are irreversible.

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    Right, because all laws are irreversible.
    LOl genious read a little. It's not just a law. They would have to fundamentally change the way the internet works. They would put another layer (great american firewall) that will monitor and control your every move.

    Good luck getting that reversed

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Right, because all laws are irreversible.
    An ounce of prevention.

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    LOl genious read a little. They would have to fundamentally change the way the internet works. They would put another layer (great american firewall) that will monitor and control your every move.

    Good luck getting that reversed
    The internet is full of people who like to dramatize insignificant events by applying catchphrases like "great American firewall," or other equally ridiculous prospects that could never feasibly be implemented due to extreme cost/effort and lack of burning necessity. It happens with almost every political issue, doubly so when that issue involves the internet. Any law can be reversed given a groundswell of public opposition. See prohibition.

    If this law really is as bad as everyone proclaims, let's pass it for a while and use it as a example for future generations of what not to do. Like prohibition.

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    LOl genious read a little. It's not just a law. They would have to fundamentally change the way the internet works. They would put another layer (great american firewall) that will monitor and control your every move.

    Good luck getting that reversed
    And the hackers would just find a way around it... You can't beat the internet. Those that tried in the last 10 years failed and will keep failing..

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    "insignificant events"

    wake up. This is not an insignificant event. Just like Obama's recent signing of Indefinite Detention Act. (Good luck getting that reversed)

    It's not the people that change the laws. It's the politicians. And most of them work for the big coorporations.

    Once you give the lion a bone, good luck getting it back.

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    The internet is full of people who like to dramatize insignificant events by applying catchphrases like "great American firewall," or other equally ridiculous prospects that could never feasibly be implemented due to extreme cost/effort and lack of burning necessity. It happens with almost every political issue, doubly so when that issue involves the internet. Any law can be reversed given a groundswell of public opposition. See prohibition.

    If this law really is as bad as everyone proclaims, let's pass it for a while and use it as a example for future generations of what not to do. Like prohibition.

    Sure, there's a bit of hyperbole. But none that are any worse than proponents' claims that there is some sort of copyright infringement crisis happening that merits government oversight at this broad a scale.

    Burden of proof is on the lawmakers to show the necessity of this action. Somehow I doubt that piracy is really what they're trying to control here.

    Anyway, "let's just pass a law and see how it goes" is a pretty ridiculous philosophy, in general.

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    I posted about this here a while back, and a bunch of the geniuses just flamed the out of it. They said it could never happen, and even if it did, no one would ever use it maliciously.

    It can happen. It already has happened. (They have shut down "egregious" domains, even without SOPA.) And anyone who believes that businesses with political clout won't use something like this maliciously deserves what they get.

    BTW - the law allows a domain to be shut down just on the word of another party that the website is infringing on their intellectual property. It doesn't absolutely require proof or due process, just the concurrence of the regulator that the claim is probably true. That's it. No opportunity to fix the problem, or to prove that it was innocently done, or done by some outside party. Shut it down first... sort it out later. Of course, by that time the damage is done.



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    Indeed.

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    another thing worth mentioning is the law would make it a felony to upload a Justin Beaver video or posting an ESPN article.

    yup, up to 5 years in jail for trying to prove lakerfan wrong on spurstalk

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    Hopefully Pop shows solidarity to the cause by refusing to play Matt Bonner tonight.






    Seriously though, while it probably won't pass, and probably wouldn't result in any major sites getting shutdown even if it did pass, it's not worth the risk.

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    Yes, stop SOPA/PIPA. Sign the pe ion:

    https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/


    But don't get rid of Pippa:

    http://pippamiddleton.net/

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