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He's useless. But he's part of the Spurs family and once your here, your here forever.
He's shooting 36% from 3, 41% from the field..the lowest percentages of his recent career..
It's evident that opposing teams have made it a priority to close out hard, thus rendering him as a useless player..
How long should he retain his current spot in the rotation?..how long will Pop give him?..
He's useless. But he's part of the Spurs family and once your here, your here forever.
only 4 big mens on roster.
He'll play as usual
He's going to play regardless, due to the number of big men on the roster..I'm asking how long he'll remain as the 2nd/3rd big..
Blair isn't much better, but at least he'll occasionally display some upside, outside of 1-dimensional, inconsistent shooting(Bonner's contribution, at the moment)..
As long as Tim is around. I was pointing out in the game thread that Pop is seemingly convinced that as long as offense is run through Tim, Matt has to be there in his 'floor-spacing' capacity
Until we get someone that pop likes better.
2 of which are getting under 25 minutes a game. You're telling me the team wouldn't benefit from one of them (or both) getting 30 minutes a night?
I disagree with the logic, but I understand..however, if Bonner keeps shooting at his current rate, i don't know how Pop will justify his playing time..
Two more years plus whatever extension he signs after.
I disagree too. That bluff has been called too many times before, and successfully. That said, if you ask me what I think will happen, then that's what I think will happen.
If I were the San Antonio media, I would just start asking Pop over and over why he's playing Bonner ahead of Tiago until he gives a straight answer. Pop is one of the smartest coaches in NBA history making one of the dumbest decisions I've ever seen -- on a nightly basis.
No need to worry this will happen until he is gone! He is here to stay and we all hate it.
Oh, and about the "justify" part... justify to who? The world will end before somebody in the SA media calls Pop out on anything.
Bonner needs to shoot at least 42-43% from 3 to effectively aid the team IMO..you could argue that even at that rate, his impact is negated by his flaws, but at least there's an argument..
If he's shooting at his current rate, 36%, which is about average(if I had to guess), his flaws are going to overshadow his strengths, obviously..
Give him amnesty this offseason.
I wouldn't have played him at all last year. Which is really too bad because we're forced to play him this year.
He'll probably go straight to the front office like Mitch (I was a bust as a Laker player) Kupchak.
I watched the game and he wasn't as terrible as you guys make it seem.
Yes he missed all his threes but so did the rest of the Spurs.
Bonner hung in there at crucial moments of the game and was able to make some plays, like when he cut backdoor and scored off a TP assist.
It's not as black and white as how many minutes a player gets...
Certain realities materialize with different line-ups.
I would like to see Splitter get more minutes as well, but I understand why Pop will play Bonner more and don't really begrudge him.
Once Timmy get's acclimated to hanging out on the perimeter on offense, and how to operate from it with a different mental approach, which it seems like he's transitioning into a KG type PF of the past, then Tiago could fit with Timmy better and they could combo.
Tiago: 18 mins, 10 points, 6 boards, 1 block, 1 steal
Bonner: 20 mins, 4 points, 1 board, 1 steal
No, we don't have to "live with" Bonner... the team has a better big that plays better than him and should be getting more minutes, not less.
Oh, and you forgot there's two sides of the court. Matty being horrendous on offense only exacerbates the fact he can't play D to save his life. He almost costs us the game tonight.
45% or better from 3 on 4+ attempts per game better is the only way Bonner should be receiving more than 8-10 minutes a game.
Yes Tiago is doing really good lately, especially his help defense and more aggressive offense.
I would like to see him play more minutes too.
But maybe Bonner just fits into more line-ups right now is the point I'm trying to make.
It's what teams should have been doing in the first place. You absolutely want him on the court if you're the other team so you can abuse him on offense, but if you take him off the three point line then the Spurs get nothing on offense and defense. That works out great for our opponents.
He's shooting 36% from 3 point land and 41% from the field, but you have to factor in the relative proportion of 3 point attempts to 2 point attempts that he's taking. Effective field goal percentage pays attention to the fact that 3 point attempts are worth more than 2 point attempts.
Player A is 3-10 from the field (with 3 three pointers), for 9 points.
Player B is 4-10 from the field (with 0 three pointers), for 8 points.
Player A's total FG% is 30 to player B's 40 FG%, and yet player A is technically more efficient from the field.
EFG%
Effective Field Goal Percentage; the formula is (FG + 0.5 * 3P) / FGA. This statistic adjusts for the fact that a 3-point field goal is worth one more point than a 2-point field goal. For example, suppose Player A goes 4 for 10 with 2 threes, while Player B goes 5 for 10 with 0 threes. Each player would have 10 points from field goals, and thus would have the same effective field goal percentage (50%).
Ranking spurs players by eFG%:
1. Manu Ginobili eFG% = 73.5 (likely to come down once sample size increases)
2. Richard Jefferson eFG% = 61.7
3. Danny Green eFG% = 60.2
4. Tiago Splitter eFG% = 57.6
5. DeJuan Blair eFG% = 54.5
6. Matt Bonner eFG% = 54.2
7. Kawhi Leonard eFG% = 52.9
8. Gary Neal eFG% = 47.1
9. T.J. Ford eFG% = 45.7
10. Tim Duncan eFG% = 46.8
11. Tony Parker eFG% = 44.8
12. James Anderson eFG% = 43.1
13. Cory Joseph eFG% = 30.8
Bonner is middle of the pack right now in terms of overall offensive efficiency (well, not overall because eFG% does not take into account free throws, but I wanted to start with the relatively more simple stat of eFG% instead of delving right into true shooting percentage (TS%) because eFG% is easier to comprehend).
It's virtually the same story when you look at true shooting percentage as well. The point is, Bonner isn't nearly as inefficient on offense as many would like to think.
Now, defense is an entirely different story...
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