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I bet if a white QB got fat, was lazy, and had a piss poor work ethic, that they wouldn't be picked up by any team either.
Andrew Luck
Robert Griffin III
Doug Williams ftw
I bet if a white QB got fat, was lazy, and had a piss poor work ethic, that they wouldn't be picked up by any team either.
Ahem...that's Baylor Alum.
And I don't see why it's such a stretch. They're both intelligent, accurate, and strong throwers. They're both great leaders and winners. I know Luck has the edge on "readiness" because he operated out of a more pro-style offense, but Griffin definitely has the edge on mobility and escapability.
RG3 just needs a year or two in a set offense and he's the better all-around player.
Rg3
Wow...judging by the poll you can already deduce that there's 10 people who know jack about the NFL
Do explain.Wow...judging by the poll you can already deduce that there's 10 people who know jack about the NFL
Even if a GM wanted to pick RGIII, he wouldn't. There's too much downside. Too much disaster potential.
It's one thing to pick Ryan Leaf. It's another to pick Ryan Leaf when Peyton Manning is still on the board.
Griffin = guy whos operated out of a gimmick college offense, has faltered against teams that are worth a , undersized, and already has had a major knee injury.
Luck = guy whos operated out of a real offense, can read a defense, has size, went to Stanford, and won a BCS bowl(woulda been 2 if his ty freshman kicker hadn't choked).
Seems like a no brainer for me tbh.
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The only people who've voted RG3 are either alums, fans, and/or minorities (mostly black, but I see one be@ner just gave his stamp of approval).
Andrew Luck is a sure thing and has everything you could ever want in a QB. JoeTait said it right...you don't wanna be the guy who drafts Leaf ahead of Manning. Bill Polian would've been fired in 1998 instead of 2012 had he passed up on the sure thing.
Black QB's don't win superbowls
Big 12 QB's haven't made good Pros in years--gimmicky offenses.
Look at the 4 Big12 QB's currently starting:
Blaine Gabbert - Unquestionably the WORST rookie QB this year. Newton, Dalton, Yates, and Ponder all showed improvement throughout the season. Gabbert didn't.
Bradford - Injured (like college) and regressed
McCoy - regressed
Freeman - ABSOLUTE DOG this year
Add in a prior knee injury (as BB said) and the fact that he's pretty much shotgun-only his entire career and yeah...I'll take the stud from Stanford.
It's an easy decision unless you're:
A. affiliated with Baylor
B. a minority
C. mentally re ed
It's no shame for RGIII to go after Luck. He'll get an opportunity somewhere.
I'll take him in Cleveland at #4 to replace Colt McCoy's broke ass.
Agree on all points, and add that it's no shame to be drafted top ten no matter what happens. Yeah, he put up big numbers and won a Heisman. Does not make him close to the prospect that Luck is. Hope he comes out and has a solid career, but in no way would I ever consider him over Luck.
defending JaMarcus Russell is a new low for the black man
You've labeled him as a guy that has faltered against teams that are worth a shot before, but it doesn't bare out. He's not undersized, standing a legit 6'2 and weighing over 200lbs. I'll give you the injury as a concern.
As for his lack of experience in a pro-style offense, it didn't hurt Cam Newton. Having said that, I don't expect him to start right away or be as good right away. I still think the upside is with him though.
It remains to be seen whether Cam and Carolina takes the next step in 2012. Teams have a year of game-film on him now and he's in a division where 2 teams are clearly better than them.
Luck is ready NOW (actually, he was ready last year), and being in a pro-system means all he has to adjust to is the speed of the game--which takes good QBs a year or less. Griffin has to adapt not only to the speed of the game--but how a pro-offense is run.
It all comes down to what JT said earlier: Griffin may very well be a good QB someday, but you DO NOT take him over the sure thing who is NFL ready and has superstar written all over him.
Try to look at this from a non-Baylor fan/black man's POV and you'll see that this is clear as day.
He's undersized......The NFL Draft is next month and Cam Newton is expected to be the first quarterback chosen. Among the many NFL quarterback-like qualities that Newton possesses, the most important might be size.
At 6-6 and 250 pounds, Newton is a big boy. And he will fit right in with the NFL's new breed of quarterback.
Of the 32 quarterbacks who started at least eight games in 2010, 13 were at least 6-5, and 11 were at least 230 pounds.
In 2010, the average starting quarterback was more than 6-3 and 225 pounds.
Read more: http://articles.businessinsider.com/...#ixzz1k9CmTsdm
The question was who you start your franchise with...the implication being who is the better long-term prospect. This is obviously my opinion, but I think RG3 has higher upside and would risk taking him over Luck if he were to be the centerpiece of my franchise. I realize I'm in the minority...pun intended.
Fair enough, though I think it has little impact on his projected success.
If he was purely a pocket passer, I might agree.
FYI, RG3 came in at 6'2 3/8 and 223lbs.
He also confirmed he is an athletic freak...4.4 in the 40 and a 39in vert.
There were also reports that he interviewed very well...no surprise there.
Two most important questions on the QB-interview questionnaire:
1. Race?
2. Conference?
Double whammy
Tbh I can't wait to compare the wonderlic scores of Luck and RG3. According to all the spooks and Branch Dividians in this thread they should be the same since "RG3 is as smart as Luck"
tbh I'd love RG3 to go to the Browns, just to see all his supporters eat their words about him. "He's not a tuck and run QB like all the rest!"
It's funny that the black man claims
A QB with rushing ability is a negative. A QB is at his best if he doesn't trust his rushing ability and only uses it as a very last resort.
Exactly, Steve Young became a great QB later on when he wasn't just rushing at the first sign of trouble--but to be fair he was on a bad Bucs team in those early days.
Michael Vick improved greatly in 2010 by becoming more of a pocket passer, but the african in him eventually got the best of him and he rushed himself to injury again.
Warren Moon was a BOSS. Black QBs should try to emulate him and not Cunningham.
I hate mother ing racist ass bigots...
just sayin.
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