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    what other years are you referring to?
    2000-2002 Three year span with both Robinson and Duncan and lakers get 3 les.

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    It's a shame the Spurs don't have a hard nosed, NBA playing experienced assistant coach to perhaps try and convince Pop about what he is doing here. I can't imagine Budenholzer or Brown being the type to speak up a whole lot.
    Pop's surrounded by yes men. It'd be like someone to tell George Lucas when he was making the Star Wars prequels, "gee, George, I don't think that people really want to see a whiny little kid as Anakin". There's no one to call him on his bull .

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    Sad as it is, the only way for Splitter to increase PT is an injury to the other "bigs".

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    In Buck Harvey's article, Pop blew my mind with this quote:Seriously, Pop? 20 minutes is as much as you can play him? You have about 70 minutes available at power forward and center outside of Tim Duncan, yet it's only possible to carve out 20 minutes for Splitter? And you consider 20 minutes for Splitter "a lot"?

    Inexcusable. Time for Coach Pop to ride off into the sunset. How delusional.

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    The silver lining here may be that Pop often does something different than he says.

    It seems almost like a defense mechanism -- he's stubborn in his rhetoric but sometimes reasonable in his actions.

    I can see Pop starting to play Splitter 28-30 minutes a game and then glaring at some reporter with that deadpan "what-the- -are-you talking-about" look for suggesting that he's playing Splitter any more than he used to.

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    I had the same reaction to that quote. Tiago is showing more skills than any big man not named Tim Duncan the Spurs have had in the last 3 years.

    What is Pop doing? Enough with the blue collar . Tiago's ripped off that collar and Pop doesn't like it.

    Marc Gasol wasn't great when he came to the NBA, but he has improved leaps and bounds. Does Pop not realize players can improve? Is he against it?
    No

    He was a very good player.Same Splitter. They have to adapt their game to the NBA and they need to play to do it. It's not like they weren't great and they have improved because they play. It's a matter of confidence and adaptation.

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    Most of biggest men play basketball because they are big, not because they athletic. (eg, just watch Splitter shoot his discombobulated, anti-smooth free throw)

    Splitter is clearly one of those, but still acceptably serviceable and effective.

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    Reading this thread makes me so damn depressed

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    Pop comes to Spurstalk and reads most the post and does opposite on purpose. So after the game he sits down with his wine and reads all the piss off post and has a chuckle.

    So we need to start yelling "Play Splitter less" and he will get more playing time. Or I could just be joking.

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    Who is this chump dumper? Who doesn't know that Pop put us in position to lose by playing small ball against Dallas? It's when this insanity first started.

    It would have been a three-peat had he not screwed it up with that stupid crap..
    Because Nazr, Rasho and Oberto were such awesome bigs?

    I recall that when they played during the series that they sucked, notably game 2.

    I think it's easier to argue that Pop put them in as good a position to win it all that year by playing a heavy dose of his 5 or 6 best players.... much like Pat Riley was known to do during playoff time.

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    Maybe the Spurs should get someone to coach him up on his moves? He is tall and athletic, but seems a little stiff, do they have a big man coach for him?

    DD

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    Where are the popologists and how great is Pop now?
    Manu is hurt and the Spurs are in the middle of things at 10-7.

    What coach out there do you feel would have a better record at this point?

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    The point hasn't changed. I tried to make it simple. You're the one who got obtuse and needed it explained to you like you're a moron.
    The point that Pop shoulda coulda won more les than one since 2006?

    You did anything but make it simple, moron. You told me to go dig up some stats instead of giving a simple answer.

    If there's a third per se, it would probably be 2011 since the Spurs were a number one seed and the Mavericks weren't all that good. A healthy Ginobili and Splitter in the rotation the entire season would have made a huge difference.
    Agreed that a healthy Ginobili makes a huge difference.

    Are you able to explain how that's Pop's fault without trying to send me on a stat crusade?

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    I have changed my avatar to show the thoughts of Pop regarding Splitter and Spurstalk.

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    At this point I'm glad Dice retired 'cause if he wouldn't have I'm not sure Splitter would be playing at all.

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    The way Pop sees the Spurs world is the reason that I did not even bother watching the game on TV. I know we can show better but Pop will not allow it so for now I'm kind of at, "What's the point?"

    Maybe when Manu comes back or when Pop has an epihany regarding Splitter for Bonner and Blair there will be something to see. Right now it just seems like Pop is the comedian and he only knows one joke. It was okay at first, but year after year the joke is getting old.

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    I remember last season when Pop made a similar comment----BEFORE--- Splitter arrived...

    I had been watching Tiago play int'l ball and I was baffled to hear pop say this...I also thought it was not a smart thing to say...at least give the guy a chance....

    A few popologists here sneered when I said Pop was crazy to be saying that ...cough cough chump,chazley, schtiiikkkk, cough...

    These pop riders were arguing that Pop was right ...Splitter will never this...never that...mahinmi sucked...blah- in-blah...

    It has been obvious to a few and now Pop is showing his ass....

    I said Splitter is better than you think and he could help right away...but no...it was splitter is just a role player...a bench player...maybe 5-10 mins a game....

    Where are the popologists and how great is Pop now?
    Your rage clouds your memory.

    Happens all the time tbh.

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    It's a shame the Spurs don't have a hard nosed, NBA playing experienced assistant coach to perhaps try and convince Pop about what he is doing here. I can't imagine Budenholzer or Brown being the type to speak up a whole lot.

    I'm trying to think if there has ever been such an injustice in recent NBA history as this? Seriously, there isn't a Spurs fan out there that believes Bonner and Blair deserve more time than Tiago... at the very minimum, he deserves the chance.
    They are the simulator crew.

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    So after thinking about it, I really don't know what to make of this still. I don't really see a motive as to why Pop would continue to subtly jab at Tiago by calling him by all accounts a non-skill player. I also don't see why Pop would look at the 20MPG and say that's all he can give him? It doesn't seem truthful from Pop, but I also don't see the benefit of saying that.

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    Wow wtf? Pop is proving to be dumber than I thought. If splitter isn't skilled then what the is bonner? Pop is just wasting splitters earned minutes by giving them to blair and bonner. What the does he have against splitter? Pop must be addicted to watching red heads run around.

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    Because Nazr, Rasho and Oberto were such awesome bigs?

    I recall that when they played during the series that they sucked, notably game 2.

    I think it's easier to argue that Pop put them in as good a position to win it all that year by playing a heavy dose of his 5 or 6 best players.... much like Pat Riley was known to do during playoff time.
    I'm not playing this game. You sound like chump. We lost that year because of Pop. He should have played Rasho, as he did all year long. He changed his philosophy right in the middle of the damn playoffs, and not for good. That's all I'm going to say about this to you because obviously you play the chump game, and your mind is made up regardless anyway. Pop screwed the Spurs that year, we should have a three peat.

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    The point hasn't changed. I tried to make it simple. You're the one who got obtuse and needed it explained to you like you're a moron. If there's a third per se, it would probably be 2011 since the Spurs were a number one seed and the Mavericks weren't all that good. A healthy Ginobili and Splitter in the rotation the entire season would have made a huge difference.

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    Is there any chance this is just Pop sending a message to Tiago? In effect saying, "I like your hustle, your effort but some skill <insert skill that Pop wants to improve> needs to get better. Minutes is reward for improvement."

    Pop likes to push buttons. If he thinks you have an ego, and need focus he rides you hard, like he did Tony. Maybe, here he just wants Tiago to keep working on something.

    I know this is just conjecture. But I'll throw it out there.

    Best, Bill

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    Is there any chance this is just Pop sending a message to Tiago? In effect saying, "I like your hustle, your effort but some skill <insert skill that Pop wants to improve> needs to get better. Minutes is reward for improvement."

    Pop likes to push buttons. If he thinks you have an ego, and need focus he rides you hard, like he did Tony. Maybe, here he just wants Tiago to keep working on something.

    I know this is just conjecture. But I'll throw it out there.

    Best, Bill
    Logic would hold up more if guys like Bonner who have regressed in addition to showing no improvement didn't get minutes.

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    Pop started to loosing it in 2008... now he is reaching the bottom

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