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    lol it's no surprise the Pats are back in the SB after Wes becomes the 3rd option in the passing game.

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    lol it's no surprise the Pats are back in the SB after Wes becomes the 3rd option in the passing game.
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    2011 NFL Receiving Targets Leaders -

    2 Wes Welker, WR NE 172

    16 Rob Gronkowski, TE NE 124

    31 Aaron Hernandez, TE NE 113

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/pl...s/seasontype/2

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    Playoff Games Targets

    Gronkowski 20
    Hernandez 17
    Welker 15

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    Umm Wes is clearly the third option.


    But he's still technically the #1 WR.

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    I stand by what I said about them being lucky. There's nothing wrong with luck. Every team that's gets this far has a lucky game or two. Its just more than obvious when a team gets outplayed, like the Patriots did, but still win.

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    I stand by what I said about them being lucky. There's nothing wrong with luck. Every team that's gets this far has a lucky game or two. Its just more than obvious when a team gets outplayed, like the Patriots did, but still win.
    The Giants lucked too then. A healthy Ted Ginn = no re ed ST ups = Niners goin to the 'ship

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    Brady sucked yesterday.

    Maybe he should have gone back to targeting the bread winner.

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    The Giants lucked too then. A healthy Ted Ginn = no re ed ST ups = Niners goin to the 'ship
    The the niners were lucky that Terrel Thomas, Will Beatty, Jonathon Goff, Clint Sintim, Marvin Austin, Stacey Andrews, Bruce Johnson, Hixon, etc. were all injured. These are all starters or backups who would have gotten significant playing time. That's not even counting our Special Teams starters/ bad asses who are out.

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    lol using regular season stats when mono's talking about the playoffs

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    The the niners were lucky that Terrel Thomas, Will Beatty, Jonathon Goff, Clint Sintim, Marvin Austin, Stacey Andrews, Bruce Johnson, Hixon, etc. were all injured. These are all starters or backups who would have gotten significant playing time. That's not even counting our Special Teams starters/ bad asses who are out.
    Please, every team has injuries. The Giants don't have some extraordinary amount of them. Most of the guys you listed were reserves. None of those guys had injuries that led to a backup getting significant PT and committing two key unforced turnovers like Ginn's injury.

    The point was that the Giants were bailed out by two turnovers they did nothing to cause. The Patriots were also bailed out by several Baltimore ups they had nothing to do with. Neither team is some unstoppable force. Giants fans are grossly overrating how much of a favorite they are.

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    Pats are lucky to have a #1 receiver like Wes, imo.
    Do #1 receivers usually have less than 60 yards in back to back playoff games?

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    lol using regular season stats when mono's talking about the playoffs
    Brady sucked yesterday.

    Maybe he should have gone back to targeting the bread winner.

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    So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?

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    Do #1 receivers usually have less than 60 yards in back to back playoff games?
    Was Randy Moss injured when he did that in 2007?

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    This game will be like the last time they met. Which ever qb that has the ball last will win.

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    So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?
    I'm not sure Welker sucked.

    Is it Welker's fault that Brady admittedly sucked?

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    I'm not sure Welker sucked.
    Welker could toss up a goose egg and you'd still find a way to defend him.

    Is it Welker's fault that Brady admittedly sucked?
    No, but it's very odd that the Patriots winning their first 2 playoff games since 2007 are games where Welker's touches and looks were greatly reduced.

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    Was Randy Moss injured when he did that in 2007?
    No, but he was also facing double and sometimes triple coverage on every play. Even then he still played like and proved he's not a reliable go to option.

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    I like it when mono plays with me!

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    So it's automatically Brady's fault when Welker sucks?

    Giants did a great job jamming Welker on the los and preventing him from running clean routes, but Welker had a huge role in that BenJarvus Green-Ellis touchdown run. Brady checked out of the initial play into a power in run when he saw the Ravens stack up into the box. Wes faked an inside crossing route which forced Ed Reed to hesitate, then allowed him to cut upfield to throw a block on the safety to put Green-Ellis in the end zone. He may not had a great night receiving wise, but he is a complete receiving. One of the league's best.

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    Its hard to pick against the Giants, with that passrush and Eli playing at a MVP level since Dec. Didn't see the reg. season game, and was wondering how the Giants handled the Pats 2TE O, for those who watched the game.

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    Please, every team has injuries. The Giants don't have some extraordinary amount of them. Most of the guys you listed were reserves. None of those guys had injuries that led to a backup getting significant PT and committing two key unforced turnovers like Ginn's injury.

    The point was that the Giants were bailed out by two turnovers they did nothing to cause. The Patriots were also bailed out by several Baltimore ups they had nothing to do with. Neither team is some unstoppable force. Giants fans are grossly overrating how much of a favorite they are.
    Goff is the starting mlb, sintim the starting slb, beatty is the starting LT, Terrel Thomas is the #1 cb. Bruce johnspn had beaten ross as the nickel back. ... Hixon is the punt and kick returner. Austin was the third DT... so yeah, those are major injuries.

    The Giants absolutely caused the last fumble. Williams' hand caused the fumble... how is that even a question?

    This is exactly why I rarely post in here.

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    Welker could toss up a goose egg and you'd still find a way to defend him.
    I guess you won't really know until he does.


    No, but it's very odd that the Patriots winning their first 2 playoff games since 2007 are games where Welker's touches and looks were greatly reduced.
    The game was won by the NE defense and lost by the Ravens O/special teams.

    These things are evident, imo.

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    Goff is the starting mlb, sintim the starting slb, beatty is the starting LT, Terrel Thomas is the #1 cb. Bruce johnspn had beaten ross as the nickel back. ... Hixon is the punt and kick returner. Austin was the third DT... so yeah, those are major injuries.
    When Austin comes back next year, he will have a great shot to be a starter. This kid is really really good man. His at ude is why he was a 2nd round pick. Of course, having all of the others back will make this team even stronger along with another strong draft class.

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    Its hard to pick against the Giants, with that passrush and Eli playing at a MVP level since Dec. Didn't see the reg. season game, and was wondering how the Giants handled the Pats 2TE O, for those who watched the game.
    The giants d handled it well enough. Thing is nicks/bradshaw didnt play in that game.

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