How good was Larry Bird?

[angelbelow]

We all know about his pure shooting ability, unmatched effort, elite athleticism and dashing good looks but I didn't know he was the great passer of all time too.

[midnightpulp]

Dominates the GOAT in every category except Kobefan's favorite one.

[DMC]

Not a lot of dunking, people actually practiced passing back then. These days, passing is a last resort when you are triple teamed with 3 seconds on the shot clock.

[midnightpulp]

Peak Bird was also the best player of his generation. 3 straight MVPs. But Magic eventually overtook him when Bird's back started giving him problems.

[pass1st]

Dominates the GOAT in every category except Kobefan's favorite one.

Is there a stat adjusted without his Washington years? Those don't really count tbh, just Jordan being a dumbass.

[pass1st]

Is there a stat adjusted without his Washington years? Those don't really count tbh, just Jordan being a dumbass.

nvm misread statline, Bird was a better leader tbh

[midnightpulp]

Is there a stat adjusted without his Washington years? Those don't really count tbh, just Jordan being a dumbass.

Washington years aren't figured in. These stats are for the head2head games they played against each other.

[timvp]

Tbh Larry Bird is the most overrated shooter in basketball history but other than that he was pretty damn good.

[Killakobe81]

Peak Bird was also the best player of his generation. 3 straight MVPs. But Magic eventually overtook him when Bird's back started giving him problems.

I agree with this, but dominate the GOAT? Let's not get crazy ...

[midnightpulp]

Tbh Larry Bird is the most overrated shooter in basketball history but other than that he was pretty damn good.

It's kind of ironic that people think of Bird as primarily a jump shooter (like Dirk, etc) when he actually did most of his damage from posting up.

[Giuseppe]

He was hot until Magic whipped his ass in Boston, then two years later took him out to the coast and ended it. After that Media had no further use for Bird.

And he was a terrible racist, but, he was grandfathered in on it, so it was okay.

[timvp]

It's kind of ironic that people think of Bird as primarily a jump shooter (like Dirk, etc) when he actually did most of his damage from posting up.

True he barely shot threes, especially by today's standards.

[midnightpulp]

I agree with this, but dominate the GOAT? Let's not get crazy ...

Bird did in fact usually get the better of Jordan when they played head to head. Not only in team wins (which is expected since the 80s Celtics were far better than the 80s Bulls) but also statistically.

Dominate is too strong of word, but I'd say Bird outplayed him for the most part. Remember, Jordan was still green in the 80s and "hadn't figured it out" yet.

[baseline bum]

It's kind of ironic that people think of Bird as primarily a jump shooter (like Dirk, etc) when he actually did most of his damage from posting up.

Bird was a jack of all trades (offensively) kind of like Garnett; you can't really pigeonhole him into any one category.

[Kori Ellis]

I hate Larry Bird.

[midnightpulp]

He was hot until Magic whipped his ass in Boston, then two years later took him out to the coast and ended it. After that Media had no further use for Bird.

And he was a terrible racist, but, he was grandfathered in on it, so it was okay.

So racist that he said "African Americans are the greatest athletes in the world."

[DeadlyDynasty]

I hate Larry Bird.

Why?

Unless you met him in real life, cause I heard he was a .

[baseline bum]

I hate Larry Bird.

Was he an ass to you? Bird never seemed like a friendly guy in person.

[Kori Ellis]

1. Because I read his book, and he said after basketball he was going to just go back to Indiana and "wait to die." (I hate that kind of at ude.)
2. It's a long story, but it involves him winking at me, and the Rick Carlisle-Kori Ellis incident.

[midnightpulp]

He was hot until Magic whipped his ass in Boston, then two years later took him out to the coast and ended it. After that Media had no further use for Bird.

And he was a terrible racist, but, he was grandfathered in on it, so it was okay.

If you guys didn't bend over in '86, it'd be notched 2-a-piece between the two greats. That was pussy letting the Rockets whip you like that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

1. Because I read his book, and he said after basketball he was going to just go back to Indiana and "wait to die." (I hate that kind of at ude.)
2. It's a long story, but it involves him winking at me, and the Rick Carlisle-Kori Ellis incident.

Go on...

[jeebus]

2. It's a long story, but it involves him winking at me, and the Rick Carlisle-Kori Ellis incident.

Do tell.

[Leetonidas]

1. Because I read his book, and he said after basketball he was going to just go back to Indiana and "wait to die." (I hate that kind of at ude.)
2. It's a long story, but it involves him winking at me, and the Rick Carlisle-Kori Ellis incident.

Link? sounds enthralling

[VBM]

2. It's a long story, but it involves him winking at me, and the Rick Carlisle-Kori Ellis incident.

[VBM]

Do tell.

damn you