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    Actually read some one complaining about the Spurs getting rid of Beno too.
    You really need to learn how to read. I said picking up Beno's option was a mistake.

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    I'm aware of this. But everyone knew the Mavs were poised to add either a second or third big with Dampier's massive partially guaranteed contract. There were rumors about Jefferson, but ultimately they felt Chandler was the better fit (of course, it didn't hurt that they didn't have to give up any real value for him, either). It was obvious whoever they got, along with Nowitzki, Haywood and Marion playing some at the four, were going to receive virtually all of the meaningful minutes at the big positions.
    Clearly you weren't aware of it, because you said Mahinmi signed to a team with two starting centers. They had one in Haywood but Dampier was out the door one way or another. Chandler was likely a Raptor as Mahinmi was signing his contract. Figuring that he had a chance to beat out Haywood for minutes if not the starting job was a pretty good strategy considering he's on his way to doing that as we speak.

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    Because you're a moron.

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    You really need to learn how to read. I said picking up Beno's option was a mistake.
    Yea you didn't want Pop to pick up Beno and Mahimni's options, then have Pop, as you say, " grind him into the ground with their heel for an extra year".

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    Clearly you weren't aware of it, because you said Mahinmi signed to a team with two starting centers. They had one in Haywood but Dampier was out the door one way or another. Chandler was likely a Raptor as Mahinmi was signing his contract. Figuring that he had a chance to beat out Haywood for minutes if not the starting job was a pretty good strategy considering he's on his way to doing that as we speak.
    Clearly I was, because I just told you I was. It was obvious they were going to get another big, even if they technically didn't have one at the time. Whether Chandler became a Raptor or not, the Mavs were going to acquire a top three big using Dampier's contract. Because that's what the Mavs do, they stack player on top of player and rarely give young players a chance.

    As if he figured he had a chance to beat out Haywood. How quickly people change their minds. It was but two years ago around this time that SpursTalk was clamoring for Haywood. Many were calling him a "top ten center" (even though he was obviously only going hard for one final big contract). Now, after the fact, you're telling me an unproven player thought he had a chance to beat him out for minutes, on a team notorious for not giving young players a chance? Get real. He was delusional if he thought he was going their to be anything more than the fifth big and even that wasn't a certainty at the start of last season.

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    That's a load of .People have said they should have kept Ian hundreds of times here. It's been done. You just did it again.

    Now what?
    Well, for starters how about admitting that you were wrong for years for Popsucking the outta pop and for defending his ridiculous Bonner-Boner-Meter sham of a in coaching performance?

    How about this;

    My name is dumpster and I shall have a little more respect for people who actually know wtf they are talking about and I shall not be so in' smug for having 90,000 posts of ill-informed garbage. I'm sorry.

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    this thread waz suppose to be about splitter not ian

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    Well, for starters how about admitting that you were wrong for years for Popsucking the outta pop and for defending his ridiculous Bonner-Boner-Meter sham of a in coaching performance?

    How about this;

    My name is dumpster and I shall have a little more respect for people who actually know wtf they are talking about and I shall not be so in' smug for having 90,000 posts of ill-informed garbage. I'm sorry.
    lol U mad

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    Clearly I was, because I just told you I was. It was obvious they were going to get another big, even if they technically didn't have one at the time. Whether Chandler became a Raptor or not, the Mavs were going to acquire a top three big using Dampier's contract. Because that's what the Mavs do, they stack player on top of player and rarely give young players a chance.

    As if he figured he had a chance to beat out Haywood. How quickly people change their minds. It was but two years ago around this time that SpursTalk was clamoring for Haywood. Many were calling him a "top ten center" (even though he was obviously only going hard for one final big contract). Now, after the fact, you're telling me an unproven player thought he had a chance to beat him out for minutes, on a team notorious for not giving young players a chance? Get real. He was delusional if he thought he was going their to be anything more than the fifth big and even that wasn't a certainty at the start of last season.
    Perhaps ... he knew he was better than what Pop gave him credit for.


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    Clearly I was, because I just told you I was.
    Fair enough. I should have taken you at your word.

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    this thread waz suppose to be about splitter not ian
    Yeah my fault. I was listening to the Mavs game while I was reading this thread. Sorry, guys. I'm glad Splitter's getting minutes, so it seemed to be relevant.

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    The Mavs have been stockpiling bigs because Cuban realizes you need them to win and can't have enough. Meanwhile Pop is in love with small ball.

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    Tp said in his radio show that Ian was always first to arrive at training and the last one to leave, that he worked a lot with weights too but that he just had bad luck during his time with the Spurs, lots of small injuries and everything. With someone as injury-prone as Manu on the team this kind thing may have scared the FO.

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    The Mavs have been stockpiling bigs because Cuban realizes you need them to win and can't have enough. Meanwhile Pop is in love with small ball.
    Cuban can afford to stockpile bigs. Holt can't/won't. And stockpiling bigs does not guarantee anything, other than making your bench look real cool on tv.
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    The Mavs have been stockpiling bigs because Cuban realizes you need them to win and can't have enough. Meanwhile Pop is in love with small ball.
    Dampier, Haywood, Chandler, Mahinmi, Cardinal...you mean those bigs? If you add up those contracts they easily over 100 million dollars. Out of those bigs only Chandler has had success. Spending that much money for limited success doesnt seem cost-effective.

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    Dampier, Haywood, Chandler, Mahinmi, Cardinal...you mean those bigs? If you add up those contracts they easily over 100 million dollars. Out of those bigs only Chandler has had success. Spending that much money for limited success doesnt seem cost-effective.
    My point is the Spurs have had years to address the big situation and they've stood pat. Splitter is the last real big they got to try to address it and then they didn't even want to play him. Cuban is overspending but he's tried to address the problem.

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    My point is the Spurs have had years to address the big situation and they've stood pat. Splitter is the last real big they got to try to address it and then they didn't even want to play him. Cuban is overspending but he's tried to address the problem.
    That's the truth.

    A team doesn't have to overspend on bigs. After years of finally misses, the Spurs now have depth and athleticism on the perimeter and they didn't have to overspend to do it. They drafted well and invested in young, cheap options. That strategy works for other parts of the team too.
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    That's the truth.

    A team doesn't have to overspend on bigs. After years of finally misses, the Spurs now have depth and athleticism on the perimeter and they didn't have to overspend to do it. They drafted well and invested in young, cheap options. That strategy works for other parts of the team too.
    You realize that its easier finding perimeter players than bigs don't you?

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    You realize that its easier finding perimeter players than bigs don't you?
    Of course. It's a bit more difficult, yet it's not impossible. Again for a team like the Spurs, the best strategy has usually been to draft and develop their own. You do realize that don't you?

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    Of course. It's a bit more difficult, yet it's not impossible. Again for a team like the Spurs, the best strategy has usually been to draft and develop their own. You do realize that don't you?
    "its a bit more difficult"?

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    What needs to happen for him to play more?

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    Splitter has been much more aggressive looking for his shot in the post in recent games and credits a more confident approach to improved foul shooting. After making only 54.3 percent of his free throws in his rookie season, he is making them at a 72.7 percent clip this season. He made 6 of 7 foul shots against the Hawks.

    “When you know that you will make free throws, you can play more aggressive,” he said. “(You can) go to the rim and you’re not thinking, ‘What if I get fouled and miss free throws?’

    “That’s a big thing and of course it’s helped my confidence. At the end of the day when you start playing good, you have confidence and attack the rim. If you are going to get fouled you are going to make it.

    “It’s like a snowball.”

    For Splitter, the snowball of confidence is rolling downhill, seemingly growing bigger with each game.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...for-teammates/

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    What needs to happen for him to play more?
    The Spurs need to get a big to take his place on the bench.

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    What needs to happen for him to play more?
    Pop needs to retire or step back to the front office....

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    You realize that its easier finding perimeter players than bigs don't you?
    Which is precisely why the Spurs should have picked up Ian option and why they should be careful with Splitter's feeling.

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