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Insane. I never expected this. Awesome middle of the line-up especially when Victor Martinez returns, whenever that may be. It's obvious fielding isn't much of a concern. Lol Miggy back at 3B.
Always the team out of left field. Guess this means Fielder and Cabrera will both play 1st and DH. Nice sign Detroit
9 years, $214MM
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...year-deal.html
Edit: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/0...e-fielder.html
Last edited by JayTheClown; 01-24-2012 at 03:13 PM.
Insane. I never expected this. Awesome middle of the line-up especially when Victor Martinez returns, whenever that may be. It's obvious fielding isn't much of a concern. Lol Miggy back at 3B.
I understand not wanting an overweight first baseman when he's 36, but dammit Rangers. Moreland better ing deliver this year.
Fielder's 2011 home park stats fit for Comerica Park.
Interesting.
Pujols and Fielder in the AL.
American League = ed
There is no way they put Miguel back at 3B, right? I mean the reasoning for moving him was because he was to slow to play the position. He has gained at least 40 pounds since being moved to first. It will very interesting the year after next when Victor comes back.
I think for the Rangers, while Fielder would have made their offense outstanding, having the flexibility to play both Michael Young and Mike Napoli 1B for a number of games is something they look at as a positive.
Yeah, I don't think Prince is going to hit 40+ HRs anymore. Fortunately, the Tigers still play 81 games in other parks other than CoPa. And I think depending how Leyland decides to make the line-up, if Fielder hits 3rd with Miguel Cabrera clean-up, Fielder may still get his share of good pitches and big swings at home, compared to having guys like Corey Hart and Yuniesky Betancourt providing him protection. I'd still expect 30-35 or so HRs from Fielder even his HR totals at home take a dip.Fielder's 2011 home park stats fit for Comerica Park.
Interesting.
Yeah, Fielder will still hit well. But he hits a ton of fly outs and his new home park will create even more. He may adjust and level off the swing a bit more to get more drive. I doubt he hits just 9 homeruns at home. 15-20 makes sense.
I think 35 is a nice number.
Prince's HR totals (home / away)
2011: 24 / 14
2010: 18 / 14
2009: 33 / 23
2008: 18 / 16
2007: 27 / 23
2006: 11 / 17
He has shown pretty consistently to hit roughly 15-20 HRs on the road so far in his career. If he's aided at all by Miggy hitting in front or behind him and adjusts his swing (as you suggested flattening it out to perhaps hit more gap doubles), perhaps he can still get near or around 15 at home as well. Who knows? Miller Park was obviously very favorable for his power. His value will obviously also be how he impacts the way teams pitch to Cabrera.
There been stories forever here in Detroit about how Prince would hit homeruns in old Tigers Stadium as a kid like when he was 10 or something when he'd take BP with his dad.
My buddy is a baseball buff and his explanation was thus:
Cabrera is going back to 3rd. Some interview he did today/yesterday in his native land was translated on the radio and he said as much.
My buddy feels Cabrera will be DH-ed for at least the beginning of the year, if not the whole year (with some spot duty at 1st). He will have to cut weight to some degree and work on his fielding at the position.
He will have this entire year, the upcoming offseason and spring training next year to get...semi-respectable at the position. Whether its a success or not is entirely up to him.
When Martinez is back, 3. Fielder 1B/Cabrera 3B - 4. Cabrera 3B/Fielder 1B - 5. Martinez DH
Thats my buddy's take.
I am no baseball wiz, but I see this ending badly very quickly. My buddy says Cabrera has expressed interest in returning to 3B even before the Fielder signing, but I have never heard or seen anything like that.
One of them will be moved in the next 3 years, especially if this team struggles at all.
Not to take away from what the Tigers did in signing Fielder. I'm sure they have a plan to make the money work for them. That being said, I am ecstatic the Rangers did give in to that contract.
I predict the Tigers will eventually attempt to move Victor when he is good and healthy. There is no point in having three 1B/DH types on your team. A Detroit fan may want to correct me on this. I believe they signed Delmon to a extension last year. Austin is under control for at least the next 4 years I believe. Boesch can signed on the cheap when his contract is up if that is the direction they want to go. The same can be said about Inge. Miggy and Verlander has signed their extensions. The Tigers have good young pitching in the rotation who aren't even arbitration eligible yet. I dont know much about the Tigers to comment on Santiago or Peralta.
The Rangers on the other hand are in a different position. Kinsler, Hamilton, Cruz, Napoli & Colby Lewis all will be FA soon. Andrus & Harrison are in their arbitration years. There is no way you add a $214 million dollar contract to this uncertainty. The Tigers are are in a relatively good position to add a large contract. They have their core players locked up. While the Rangers need to get to where the Tigers were before they signed Fielder.
Theyre spending like the Yankees, they better play better than the Yankees.
The pressure is officially at maximum in Detroit to win and win now. The owner is 82 years old and baseball is his very first love. He wants a Series ring before he dies, pretty obvious, I wouldnt be surprised if this team wasnt done yet this offseason.
Illitch (the owner) knows the clock is ticking. He might just buy a Series at the expense of everything else and let the kids pick up the pieces after he is gone.
I think their spending more wisely then the yankees. The Yankees just throw many around hoping to hit a target.
Delmon Young is in his last year of arbitration, and he agreed with the Tigers for a one year deal worth just under $7 million. He'll be a free agent after this season. It's assumed the Tigers have no designs for Delmon Young to be a part of the future beyond this season. Both Austin Jackson and Brennen Boesch are under team control for a while. Neither is even in his arbitration years yet. Inge has a club option for 2013 but it's widely anticipated to be bought out for I believe $500,000. I have a sneaking su ion he'll be waived before this season even starts or at some point during this upcoming season. Verlander is signed through 2014. Miggy is signed through 2015. The Tigers owner Ilitch had spent in recent years. And you're right that the Tigers were in position this off season to spend on a big contract if they wanted to. I didn't expect this though. Not at all.
In that same article Dark mentioned, Miggy also was quoted as saying 3B is his natural position. I think he views the move back to 3B as a good thing, or the very least, not a bad thing. How he performs at 3B defensively is a different matter. His first season with the Tigers, he did not look good there, and he's only gotten bigger. But obviously defense is not a pressing concern based on this move.
With Victor Martinez out this season (or at least most of the season), I'm sure both Miggy and Prince will have their fair share of games DHing.
I knew Delman signed a contract I just assumed it was more than a year. I forgot how young he was. If Miggy turns out to be be a decent defensive 3B then then the sky will be the limit for this team. I suspect Miggy will lose a little weight for spring training.
The other divisional parks in the NL Central are all hitter-friendly, though, too. AL Central has one I know of in Comiskey, but I know Minnesota's new stadium is pitcher friendly. Not sure I know enough about the Royals and Indians ballparks.
I think a nice 14-18 split pretty even both Home/Road is to be expected, though. If he realizes hitting gap doubles is better than flying out, maybe 13-16 split per with a drastic increase in doubles, thus probably more RBI.
Miguel at third will not be any worse, and probably much better than their previous patchwork 3B platoon. Their choices were good glove/no stick in Inge, or bad glove, light stick with the others. If he's willing to lose some weight and work on his fielding for a while before they stick him out there, the Fielder signing will be a strong positive.
What a horrible move by the Tigers. 9 years,$214 million for one player? Not worth it. The Tigers are going to regret this move in the near future. They will be financially ed. Moves like these come back to bite teams in the ass.
Oh, and I would know about horrible contracts. Look at that piece of Ryan Howard. Dumbass Phillies are stuck with him for a few more years.
Not sure if srs, but I agree.What a horrible move by the Tigers. 9 years,$214 million for one player? Not worth it. The Tigers are going to regret this move in the near future. They will be financially ed. Moves like these come back to bite teams in the ass.
9 years 214 m is a lot to invest in one first baseman/dh.
I thought sure everyone in baseball had seen Moneyball by now
who cares...its not like there is a cap..if they have money to spend, then in spend it. lol
lol at people who is soooo worried about how high contracts that they are glad they didnt sign Fielder or Pujols.
Frickin Angels has Vernon Wells contract and people thought they couldnt spend anything anymore...then BAM, Wilson and Pujols.
Moneyball never won a WS. Mike Ilitch is 82 and wants to win one before he goes into the ground.
The Tigers just lost their second best bat last week, and Prince was the only really good one left on the market. I like Miguel Cabrera, but Fielder is two years younger, and if MC doesn't work out at third, his contract is such that any team that doesn't mind the occasional DUI can get a good bat for less than the current market.
I also read an article that they may move Delmon to DH for his (likely) final year in DET and try MC in LF, since Delmon isn't all that with the glove anyway.
I didn't imply they should be Oakland A cheap, but do the Tigers have unlimited amounts of money to spend?
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