Could he be making his way back to the spurs in a under the table kinda way?
I think they'll match any offer unless it's way too big, something i doubt considering his performance so far.
From what I've heard, they're not so thrilled about him as they were when they got him. He is a hometown guy and even if he is not what they expected, they will keep him. He will probably get MLE money.
Roy Hibbert will also be a RFA this summer. Perfect fit for the Spurs with his shot blocking ability. Will be tough to steal him but the Spurs will have to take chances with the RFAs available (Hibbert, Batum,Mcgee).
It's a cap management move from the Pacers perspective.
Hill, as the 26th pick (And Hibbert, as the 17th pick) will have cheaper qualifying offers/cap holds than any contract he'd sign. As the Pacers will have cap space with the two on cap holds, there's no point in giving away extensions unless the deal was ridiculously cheap, and neither Hill or Hibbert were going to take ridiculously cheap deals.
Both restricted, and will in all likelyhood resign with the Pacers.
There is a good chance that somebody will give Hibbert superstar cash.
In other words they're going to let the market dictate what they should pay for these player (i.e., they'll match offers). Makes sense for Hill, but may be risky for Hibbert since some team will likely overpay for him. Then again, Pacers have loads of cap space next summer.
Pacers will try to make a move on Eric Gordan, which could open the door for Hill to go elsewhere.
Last edited by dbestpro; 01-26-2012 at 10:12 PM.
Eric Gordon, but yeah. Him, or a player like him(in terms of caliber) is the motivation from the Pacers POV from not extending Hibbert and Hill.
There's no way Pacers are letting hibbert go. he's having a great season and is their only true center.
Hill is expendable given the skill which Paul George has shown but they'll probably re-sign him since he backs up both collison and Paul George.
Either way, i don't really see any value in having him back here
pacers are definitely gunning for eric gordon. no sense in having two undersized shooting guards.
If the Spurs were to target Hibbert, it would make sense seeing as how Hibbert leans on Duncan for advice and scouting reports.
LinkWhile the coaching staff does a great job of preparing game plans, Hibbert is also getting is own personal scouting report from San Antonio Spurs legend Tim Duncan to add to Big Roy's confidence which has become a constant.....I text him and I ask him how to play different big guys to help me with the little moves to get a little edge on guys," Hibbert said. "So he's just like a little voice in my ear and I keep in touch with him regularly....He gives me a scouting report," Hibbert explained. "He's been down that road, playing against all of these guys before, so he knows how to play them....Yeah, he tells me to use this foot or use this hand to shield guys off," Hibbert said. "So he tells me the small little things I can do for my game to improve.
Would be very difficult to get him though.
If we drop Anderson, bring back hill
Hill is having the best season of his career. As jesterbobman said, not extending Hill now is a cap move. Unless they sign a max free agent guard, I expect Hill to re-sign with the Pacers.
It'll be interesting to see how much Hill gets on the open market. My guess would be something in the neighborhood of $6 million a season. If a team thought he could be a starting point guard, he could make more -- but it's becoming clear that Hill's just not capable of being a starting point guard due to a lack of playmaking.
I ask this not to be combative, but is he really? It doesn't feel like he is. If I were the Pacers I think I'd be disappointed. I certainly wasn't surprised by their decision.
I'd say he is. Highest PER and highest true shooting percentage of his career. Steals and rebounding up. Turnovers down. After a slow start in his first four games, he's shooting >51% from both the field and three-point line since then.
He hasn't blossomed into a star or anything but for a bench guard on a new team after a lockout, he's playing about as well as could have been expect, IMO.
I knew he'd shown some relative signs of life lately, but I didn't realize it was that good. he must have been pretty abysmal at the beginning for his averages not to show it. I certainly hope he keeps it up for his sake. He's a good kid.
Right on. He's having his best season.
Except for one little stat if you're looking for a point guard.
Yeah, George Hill is averaging the same number of assists per minute as Matt Bonner. Seriously. Hill isn't just a bad playmaker for a point guard, he's a bad playmaker for a bigman.
Cory Joseph is about as green as they get and he averages more than 2.5 times more assists per minute than Hill. Going forward, Hill is basically a 6-foot-2 small forward.
That said, he's a solidly above average player who would end up being a good investment for a team for around $5M per year.
For a guy that was such a prolific scorer in college, I'm still a bit disappointed that he doesn't blow up more.
I like Hill but I am happy we got the trade and snatched leonard! Would I want him back as a backup for a good price yeah, but otherwise nah he is what he is and thats a good guard off the bench and nothing more.
George Hill is a player. Rest assured he will drop 30 on yall when yall play Indy.
So am I, but I wouldn't want Hill back. Between Gary Neal's cold-blooded scoring. Kawai Leonard's size and defense and the combination of both T.J. Ford and Cory Joseph as backup PG, I believe we've got Hill's spot, and his contributions, more than covered.
wow didnt know hibb, talked to timmy ona regular basis, timmy doesnt seem like the guy to do that sort of stuff.
I love hill, but man we are too deep in the guard position. He isn't a true PG and small for the 2 position.
With Neal, Manu, Danny Green, possibly Leonard at the 2, there's really no room for him. I wish him the best of luck in his future career however.
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