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    We had tariffs, then we had free trade.

    Walmart actually carries quite a few items made in the USA. Other stores sell probably as many or more items as part of their inventory that are made over seas. To pick on Walmart alone, tells me you are a liberal lemming.

    I used to be the one complaining in the 70's, when big stores started replacing the family stores. I do find irony in people now complaining about big stores eating each other up. Now that the thousands of individual stores are gone in a metro area, replaced by chain stores, franchises, Kroger, KKR owned, etc. Why does Walmart suddenly matter?

    The fact that you resorted to liberal name calling tells me you have weak arguments. You proved this point with the remainder of your post. Wal Mart was just one example. I am quite aware that most retailers sell cheap over seas goods. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not going to list them all in this thread. I used the largest and most known retailer.

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    1. Companies that hire people are job creators. They need our money to make their product profitable and increase their employment. Not all companies pay the bare minimum (SWA, Bill Millers, my future coffee shop) but some do. The employee has the choice. For instance when I was a kid I had the option to work at McDonalds or Bill Millers. Mikey D's paid minimum where as B.M paid 40-50% higher to start.

    2. Government is job creator. They have no incentive to make their product better or to have a better sales pitch than the next guy. Working around "contractors" for five years, I can tell you that it works terrible.

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    The fact that you resorted to liberal name calling tells me you have weak arguments. You proved this point with the remainder of your post. Wal Mart was just one example. I am quite aware that most retailers sell cheap over seas goods. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not going to list them all in this thread. I used the largest and most known retailer.
    Even though Walmart is a terrible employer, it does show in the interaction of most employees. Walmart, having the cheapest product, accepts this. They are selling low price. Not customer service.
    Although I completely disagree with this model, it has a place in our market, as the profits show. However Walmart has helped to keep inflation down. All the lower and middle class people such as myself, that the liberals seem to make the centerstage for all their arguments are benefiting by being able to have more furniture, electronics and food in their house because of walmart.

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    The middle class may benefit by having cheaper consumer goods, but the cost of said goods is fewer good paying manufacturing jobs. The heavy losses the manufacturing sector has taken is one reason why middle income wages have been stagnant for decades. So you trade off good jobs for cheap stuff. Then when the price of everything else goes up, such as health care, fuel, food, etc, the middle class gets pinched.

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    The fact that you resorted to liberal name calling tells me you have weak arguments. You proved this point with the remainder of your post. Wal Mart was just one example. I am quite aware that most retailers sell cheap over seas goods. Sorry to disappoint you, but I am not going to list them all in this thread. I used the largest and most known retailer.
    By doing so, singled them out, and carry the liberal theme.

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    By doing so, singled them out, and carry the liberal theme.
    Do you honestly think your opinions are anymore correct than a liberal's?

    Neither extreme will work. Capitalism and Socialism both have equal roles in this government. State and National regulation are both needed. You base your arguments on specific situations instead of the broad picture and it's all bull because it still doesn't disprove common sense.

    People need to work for their money. No one likes a free loader. People born without a fair chance deserve help from social programs. Middle class should be protected in economic depression. The top percent should pay higher taxes in a crisis if need be.

    The reason this country is taking a , is due to the lack of adaptability, intelligence, and empathy.

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    Do you honestly think your opinions are anymore correct than a liberal's?
    That's a tricky statement. More correct? Not really as opinions. I will disagree with most liberal views though.
    Neither extreme will work. Capitalism and Socialism both have equal roles in this government. State and National regulation are both needed.
    I disagree with equal, but I agree with this otherwise.
    You base your arguments on specific situations instead of the broad picture and it's all bull because it still doesn't disprove common sense.
    No I don't, at least not the same way. I was pointing out using "Walmart" was being specific rather than general.
    People need to work for their money. No one likes a free loader. People born without a fair chance deserve help from social programs. Middle class should be protected in economic depression.
    Agreed.
    The top percent should pay higher taxes in a crisis if need be.
    They do pay higher taxes at the same tax rate. Why should the tax rate be higher too? Just because they can afford it? That becomes Marxist thinking.
    The reason this country is taking a , is due to the lack of adaptability, intelligence, and empathy.
    I won't disagree with that, though we will probably disagree in how that statement applies.

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