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I think the chances of us trading away Bonner and Blair together in the same trade would be infinitely better than Howard ending up here. Its a nice thought though...
Marquee free agents do not intentionally go to small market teams.
I think the chances of us trading away Bonner and Blair together in the same trade would be infinitely better than Howard ending up here. Its a nice thought though...
Representing. Meaning he's the face of adidas in SA.
Thanks. The thought I conjured is crazy. But the thought (like some have) of him not even considering the Spurs may be just as out there.
I think an all star caliber player would consider the Spurs if the right situation were presented. The "small market" moniker placed on this team doesn't hold water being the Spurs are a proven, successful, champion franchise. I've always been of the thought that success breeds success. If Howard wants to be on a successful team for his career...San Antonio has proven to be just as good or better than some of the "large market" teams.
The trade scenario I presented was more of...if Orlando were to be seriously considering trading him before the end of the season and him going into free agency...and the Spurs would really want to be in the running for Howard...that would be about the only way (other than a 3 or 4 team trade) it could get done.
Would it be "out there" to point out that both JKidd and J O'Neal spurned us THE SUMMER WE WON THE LoB IN 2003?
If a big FA were ever going to come, that would have been the time. I have a question for you. What was the last time a franchise centerpiece relocated to be the centerpiece of a new franchise, and won the LoB?
he come here and warm splitters seat
You would be absolutely correct. In fact there have been a lot of "big time" players to as you say...which "spurned" the team.
The Spurs have not been the best at getting "free agent" players to join. Reasons not fully known. But the organization has been fairly successful at making deals with other organizations to get talent. So much so...I see their best bet in getting talent is via trade.
But there's also a question to your adequate question..."What was the last time a franchise centerpiece relocated to be the centerpiece of a new franchise, and won the LoB?"...When's the last time a team were able to get some of the best role and lead players to join a team that didn't have a "centerpiece" player?
A player like Howard (or some other "premier" player) doesn't necessarily guarantee top players to joining a team upon free will because that player is on the team...but it goes a lot further than not having one.
Are we going to go from a starting 6'7" center and no shotblocking to Dwight Howard?
No.
The answer to the question was Shaquille O'Neal, and it will be SIXTEEN years ago this summer. You don't build around "marquee" FAs and win LoBs. There is only one recipe for that: start at the bottom and build through the draft. Look at the le teams from the last 25 years. With the noted exception of the Laker Shaq/Kobe 3 peat, none of them were built around a major FA acquisition.
If Orlando doesn't cave to Dwight's trade demands, I don't think he'll leave when he's a FA. He's playing a game of chicken with Orlando and they are going to call his bluff.
The Magic are the only team that can pay him an extra 30 Million dollars if I'm not mistaken. That is, unless they trade him. If he walks as a FA, he stands to lose lots.
If any of what I just wrote is wrong, please let me know.
Tyson Chandler begs to differ, as do Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.
What does DH12 want? Money? 83 million already in his pocket. Bright lights-big city? New Jersey is the only team that can give him that. Does he want a ring? I see 2 places that have the money to pay him and the team in hand under contract to get there. Houston and San Antonio. My comment is based on the Hoopsworld salary lists. If he wants money, stay in Orlando. Other teams have to clear cap space before they can even talk to him. When they do that they have nothing to show him they want to win. Houston and San Antonio can both pay and have the players on the roster to become NBA champions.
Do we have a chance? If he wants a ring, we have a major shot at him coming here. If he wants money, Orlando is the place.
I can just picture a front line of DH12 and Tiago with Timmy coming off the bench. Would that be great?
You answered your question. Now answer mine.
I'm just looking at an avenue that may not subject this team to as you said...."There is only one recipe for that: start at the bottom and build through the draft."
Quite frankly, the Spurs have already been building through the draft the past 3 years. It's just not the "marquee players" they've been acquiring but good to solid role players.
It'll still take a "premier" player to be realistically compe ive for a le.
Right. Did you miss the part about "start at the bottom"? We won't be elite again until we blow it up rebuild. What we're doing is just marking time and letting Tim go out on his terms.
No. I didn't miss that part. I just didn't concur to it. All I did was offer an option to not having to go through with it. Whether it was viable or not I don't know...it was at least an option compared to not trying.
Look...not meaning to be argumentative...but what would your solution be other than just letting the cards fall where they may? Please be one of the few who develop an answer instead of just disagreeing to a post.
Send him a copy of the 4th quarter and OT. Maybe he will consider playing with this bunch. They are better than what he is playing with now.
I said not too long ago that the Spurs are a pretty sexy choice on the field for Howard, too bad that from what I hear around here San Antonio doesn't seem to be a pretty nice place to live.
Um no. Garnett and Allen were trades, Bos stockpiled lottery picks and talent for years before having the chips to pull off these two trades.
Chandler was a trade as well. Dampier had an unbelievably valuable huge non guaranteed contract.
Well Spurs would be among the teams with cap space if he goes to FA, especially if we amnesty RJ -- under the new rule salary wouldn't count against the cap unlike the last round of amnesty where teams had to keep salary on the books but saved on luxury tax.
Dallas and Boston are in a similar situations, but they have more players they have to think about re-signing whereas we have only really have TD (Dallas = Terry, Guaranteeing Odom; Boston = Allen, KG).
I still think he'll get traded before March 15th, but after the All-star game in Orlando.
There is absolutely zero chance that he comes here. Every team wants him so why would he choose SA over the Lakers or the Bulls for example. It wouldn't make much economic sense to go to a market similar to Orlando. My hunch is he will be with the Lakers or back with the Magic. The Nets have a chance as well since Howard doesn't want to follow in Shaq's footsteps by going to L.A.
If the Spurs have a decent run. It might not be that crazy at all. There will be money to offer specially if the Spurs amnesty RJ this summer. Two unselfish star guards (Tony and Manu) locked for a couple of years. At least a couple of young wings. A very good frontcourt, maybe even a great frontcourt if Timmy decides to play an extra year or two (DH12, Timmy, Tiago, Blair and Bonner) and arguably the best coach you can have right now. Suddenly a few vets wanting to come to SA on the cheap again just because you did.
Tony and Joseph
Manu, Neal
Leonard and Green
Timmy, Blair and Bonner
DH12 and Tiago
TJ and Anderson are not under contract for next season.
All this without anything magic happening. The players are already there and there will be money. Someone please talk to Dwight!
Could Dwight Howard be sold on the Spurs?
No.
Money, that a team has available, will keep him out of LA and Chicago. \]
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