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  1. #176
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    Yeah, they have done a great job of rebounding since their bad start. Especially when you consider the 3 stupid last-second losses... the Mavs are going to be just fine.

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    VC and West have been awesome pickups.

    Can you imagine the Mavs doing this well, in any of the last 5+ seasons, if Dirk was playing this bad? They would probably be 6-16, instead of 14-8. Not to mention the fact that they went 3-1 in the games he missed, and the loss was a game they blew badly after a good start. This is the first time since the early Terry/Howard/Stackhouse days, where the Mavs haven't had to rely so heavily on Dirk to score for the team.

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    We'll have something to say about who comes out of the West, that's for sure.

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    VC and West have been awesome pickups.

    Can you imagine the Mavs doing this well, in any of the last 5+ seasons, if Dirk was playing this bad? They would probably be 6-16, instead of 14-8. Not to mention the fact that they went 3-1 in the games he missed, and the loss was a game they blew badly after a good start. This is the first time since the early Terry/Howard/Stackhouse days, where the Mavs haven't had to rely so heavily on Dirk to score for the team.
    I expected Delonte to play well to be honest, he's been a solid player in Boston and Cleveland. But VC is a real surprise, he seems really hungry for a le and is playing like it.

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    I wasn't shocked at all by VC. Honestly, I thought Odom would struggle the most. I was excited for him simply because he is probably the best backup Dirk has ever had, but I was still more excited overall for getting VC and West, as I thought they would fit some of the Mavs needs, better than Odom (attacking the hoop, scoring, perimeter defense)

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    but when you need some big bearded n!gga to protect the paint & rebound come the playoffs and can't reach out for no one, you are literally ED

    losing TC marks the end of your le chances tbh and its time for you n!ggas to rebuild now. despite how good & swole they look right now, 2nd round is the ceiling for this team tbh. VC/West aint enough to compensate the loss of TC, you UNSTACKED

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    We Stacked! Chandler is overrated. We got Haywood and Mahinmi.

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    We Stacked! Chandler is overrated. We got Haywood and Mahinmi.
    Shut the up, bull er.

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    but when you need some big bearded n!gga to protect the paint & rebound come the playoffs and can't reach out for no one, you are literally ED

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    Shut the up, bull er.
    you. I don't give a about the Bulls. You are an idiot for thinking I care about any other team but the mavs.

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    tbh real talk, when the mavs start suckin ass you gonna switch teams?

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    you. I don't give a about the Bulls. You are an idiot for thinking I care about any other team but the mavs.
    Only idiot I see here is you tbh. Ugly duckling misfit mav fan tbh.

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    Only idiot I see here is you tbh. Ugly duckling misfit mav fan tbh.
    This site didn't use to have such angry mavs fans. I wish it was like the good old days where Spurs fans hated me. I could care less what they thought. It was fun trolling them.

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    You don't have the mental capacity to troll a re .

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    You don't have the mental capacity to troll a re .
    You obviously don't remember the first 2 years I was on this site. I gave up trolling spurs fans though or rarely do it now.

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    I'm sure it was awesome man!

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    I guess my biggest mistake was disrespecting Finley. He was a great player but his decline was rather quick. Maybe had to do with some injuries he had. I also had a lot of bad predictions. The first 2 years I was here, I was a homer believe it or not. I enjoyed beating the spurs more than anyone. I predicted the year before that the Mavs would be a 60 win team. They got close. Anyways, I can't remember a lot as that was 6 years ago. I remember putting a lot of post in the spurs forum and GDT. Enjoying many of their losses.

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    I also had a lot of bad predictions.
    omg no way

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    but when you need some big bearded n!gga to protect the paint & rebound come the playoffs and can't reach out for no one, you are literally ED

    losing TC marks the end of your le chances tbh and its time for you n!ggas to rebuild now. despite how good & swole they look right now, 2nd round is the ceiling for this team tbh. VC/West aint enough to compensate the loss of TC, you UNSTACKED
    What made Chandler unique was his ability to hassle quick guards who got into the paint. The Mavs defense against speedy guards was so horrendous that having Chandler was a must.

    This year, that's not the case. West and Roddy both have proven more than capable defenders against speedy guards, and it has helped the defense tremendously. Don't get me wrong, I would still love Chandler to be in there, but losing him didn't hurt nearly as much as it would have, if West/Roddy weren't in the rotation. Also, it seems like Carlisle has changed up the defensive system a bit, to attack passing lanes for steals, and to swarm the paint quicker. I think the increased level of athleticism across the team has allowed these types of schemes to work better, as the perimeter defenders are quick enough to recover and still get back to their man or rotate to the perimeter (although the last couple games they haven't defended the perimeter that well)

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    What made Chandler unique was his ability to hassle quick guards who got into the paint. The Mavs defense against speedy guards was so horrendous that having Chandler was a must.

    This year, that's not the case. West and Roddy both have proven more than capable defenders against speedy guards, and it has helped the defense tremendously. Don't get me wrong, I would still love Chandler to be in there, but losing him didn't hurt nearly as much as it would have, if West/Roddy weren't in the rotation. Also, it seems like Carlisle has changed up the defensive system a bit, to attack passing lanes for steals, and to swarm the paint quicker. I think the increased level of athleticism across the team has allowed these types of schemes to work better, as the perimeter defenders are quick enough to recover and still get back to their man or rotate to the perimeter (although the last couple games they haven't defended the perimeter that well)
    This! It's what I have been writing over at dallas-mavs.com. It's not that Mahinmi and Wood are better than Tyson by themselves, it's that the perimeter D is so much better than last year until now, that the centers don't need to really clean up as much as Tyson did. Roddy and West have been extremely impressive in their aggresive D.

    That's one of the reasons why people have a right to wonder whether the team has more talent than last year.

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    This! It's what I have been writing over at dallas-mavs.com. It's not that Mahinmi and Wood are better than Tyson by themselves, it's that the perimeter D is so much better than last year until now, that the centers don't need to really clean up as much as Tyson did. Roddy and West have been extremely impressive in their aggresive D.

    That's one of the reasons why people have a right to wonder whether the team has more talent than last year.
    The talent level most definitely is superior. Imagine if Dirk and Kidd were playing this badly/missing games last season... how lost would the team be? Rather than going 14-8, they would probably be something awful like 6-16 during such a stretch.

    The thing that make's this team potentially superior, is that they don't have to rely on Dirk or Kidd to make things happen for the offense, like they did last year. They have 5 players who can create offense for themselves and/or others, that they didn't have/utilize last year, in Carter, West, Roddy, Mahinmi, and Odom. That makes a BIG difference, and down the stretch, will be even more useful, as we will have a much more fresh Dirk on our hands, who will be more confident in his teammates ability to help him out when he is getting doubled consistently.

    The goal of the team during the season should be getting everyone as comfortable as possible with each other, while keeping everyones bodys well rested. Come playoff time, the Mavs will be right there competing for a championship.

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    the talent level outside of dirk is better but the overall talent level including dirk (who is a huge part of our overall success by himself) is quite a bit lower. as currently constructed, the mavs success will ultimately depend on how dirk plays, no matter how good the supporting cast is playing. it ain't like he's got a stacked team around him either way.

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    Dirk will be fine. I strongly doubt he has declined that much in the matter of 6-7 months. He is obviously out of shape, but had some games early on where he showed he still is fully capable of taking over and dominating in the clutch, including still face-raping the Thunder both times they played them.

    It's pretty obvious Dirk is coasting, which is frustrating to see as a fan, but will ultimately be more beneficial for the team as he will be more fresh, while the extra shots and opportunities for everyone else will help them all get in the best groove possible.

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    the talent level outside of dirk is better but the overall talent level including dirk (who is a huge part of our overall success by himself) is quite a bit lower.
    tbh this statement doesnt make much sense at all, unless you are saying Dirk magically lost all his skills.

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    Lamar out for tonight's big game but it should open up minutes for Wright (hopefully) and not Cardinal.

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