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    By most accounts, she's an insufferable .

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    I have no problem with teaching the Bible as literature (but teach also the Torah, the Koran, Bagavad Gita, etc), and/or in a comparative religions class, or in history of religionS class.
    I agree with boutons on this. If this is about teaching history of religions or even literature, why not include any of the others just as historically important writings?

    The fact that the Bible is singled out is what makes me su ious as to the actual intentions.

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    Conservatives, so pure and holy, doing the oilco/Kock Bros bidding, the s:


    Conservatives Use Creationist Playbook to Attack Climate Change Education in Schools

    A few years ago, Cheryl Manning assigned a research project on climate change to her high school environmental science class in Evergreen, Colo. She presented the basic facts and data from peer-reviewed studies, then asked the students to look into the issue themselves and report back on what they learned.

    Halfway through the unit, three students came to class up in arms. They questioned whether the data was made up and if government scientists were part of a plot — “like conspiracy theorists that say we never went to the moon,” Manning said. At a PTA meeting the students’ parents accused her of trying to undermine their children’s religious belief system.

    “Peer-reviewed science is the Kool-Aid of the left-wing liberal conspiracy,” they said, adding a warning: “Be on your guard.”

    Manning’s superintendent backed her up, and the parents eventually pulled their kids out of school. But she said her experience is common enough that many teachers shy away from the subject of climate change.

    Manning’s experience in Colorado is just a microcosm of a larger fight being waged in classrooms across the country. Reminiscent of the evolution-vs.-creationism clash, the overwhelming scientific evidence that says humans are causing the warming of the planet has emerged as the new battlefield in middle and high schools in the U.S.

    That concerns the National Center for Science Education (NCSE) in Oakland, Calif. For 25 years the Center has worked to keep creationism and “intelligent design” out of public schools. Now it has expanded its scope to defend and support the teaching of climate change science, against the efforts of skeptics or deniers to intimidate teachers.

    “We have been hearing for several years now that teachers were getting pushback on teaching climate change, and some of the playbook used by those promoting teaching ‘both sides’ was very similar to the attempt to have evolution ‘balanced’ by creationism and intelligent design,” said Mark McCaffrey, who is spearheading the Center’s new initiative. “From my experience working with teachers, it is clear that the so-called ‘controversy’ about climate change science is a major impediment to teachers and the polarized political climate around teaching the topic is a big problem.”

    http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/153909

    "teaching balance" is conservatives pushing their UCA-bought LIES in balance with scientific truth.

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    Forget the bible, we need more religion in some schools....people have forgotten to teach their kids proper morals....

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    Isn't evolution a theory?

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    The Wemby Assembly z0sa's Avatar
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    Isn't evolution a theory?
    Most scientists consider it both a fact and a theory.

    Wikipedia on the subject

    While not an absolute science because of the ever developing nature of life, evolution is considered by many a fact.

    OTOH, creationism or ID is nowhere near a theory, with only the loosest foothold in factual basis.

    What the politicians on the right SHOULD be keeping in mind:

    " Does the evolutionary doctrine clash with religious faith? It does not. It is a blunder to mistake the Holy Scriptures for elementary textbooks of astronomy, geology, biology, and anthropology. Only if symbols are construed to mean what they are not intended to mean can there arise imaginary, insoluble conflicts. ...the blunder leads to blasphemy: the Creator is accused of systematic deceitfulness."

    — Theodosius Dobzhansky, "Nothing in Biology Makes Sense Except in the Light of Evolution" (1973)
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