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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080920/...yrPg8354xv24cA

    According to reports in Knoxville's Tennessean, Democrat State Representative Mike Kernell admitted that his son, David Kernell is being questioned by authorities in connection with the crime. The Secret Service and the FBI launched an official investigation on September 17.

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    Have you got Yahoo E-mail?---see how secure it is when they give away a vice presidential candidates password to a Tennessee hillbilly who resets the password to "Popcorn" and publishes her E-mails.

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    so donkeys think they have to hack her account
    wtf
    talk about being scared

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    so donkeys think they have to hack her account
    wtf
    talk about being scared
    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
    gen·er·al·i·za·tion /ˌdʒɛnərələˈzeɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[jen-er-uh-luh-zey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. the act or process of generalizing.
    2. a result of this process; a general statement, idea, or principle.
    3. Logic.
    a. a proposition asserting something to be true either of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class.

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    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1) - Cite This Source - Share This
    gen·er·al·i·za·tion /ˌdʒɛnərələˈzeɪʃən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[jen-er-uh-luh-zey-shuhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –noun
    1. the act or process of generalizing.
    2. a result of this process; a general statement, idea, or principle.
    3. Logic.
    a. a proposition asserting something to be true either of all members of a certain class or of an indefinite part of that class.


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    And another Democratic rep's kid was arrested for slashing tires of vehicles at the Republican National Convention.

    Stay classy, Dems

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    And another Democratic rep's kid was arrested for slashing tires of vehicles at the Republican National Convention.

    Stay classy, Dems
    How about the Republican rep that was taken for over $100,000 when he took a complete stranger up to his room to ?

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    How about the Republican rep that was taken for over $100,000 when he took a complete stranger up to his room to ?

    Well hearing that account of the story It looks like he got ed pretty good.

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    And another Democratic rep's kid was arrested for slashing tires of vehicles at the Republican National Convention.

    Stay classy, Dems
    This right here, is a prime example of how politics now a days is full idiots. A kid steals Palin's email and you use it to paint democrats in a bad light? Let me guess, you think the kid was coerced by his democrat father into hacking into Palin's email in an elaborate scheme to dig up dirt on the republican VP candidate...

    Whats the matter? don't you have enough dirt on the Dems that you have to resort to this bull ?

    This isn't about the Democrats, its about one stupid kid that did a stupid kid and got in over his head.
    Last edited by MaNuMaNiAc; 09-21-2008 at 05:06 AM.

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    Dems have been on a Palin witch hunt since she was announced. Why should their kids be any different?

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    Palin is a gun totin, tounges speaking, hands in the air, right to lifer and big corporate politician. Oh wait that describes all the pastors in TX.

    Heck yeah! Lets vote her in. Put that big red button next to her desk and watch the fireworks begin.

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    How about the Republican rep that was taken for over $100,000 when he took a complete stranger up to his room to ?
    Well, I'd say he got ed alright

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    This right here, is a prime example of how politics now a days is full idiots. A kid steals Palin's email and you use it to paint democrats in a bad light? Let me guess, you think the kid was coerced by his democrat father into hacking into Palin's email in an elaborate scheme to dig up dirt on the republican VP candidate...

    Whats the matter? don't you have enough dirt on the Dems that you have to resort to this bull ?

    This isn't about the Democrats, its about one stupid kid that did a stupid kid and got in over his head.

    Do you see Republicans (or their kids) doing the same ? It's part of the problem in this country. The extreme outliers on the left are getting to the point where if you don't agree with them they feel violence and vandalism are justified. From the I mentioned above to them killing abortion doctors, etc. it's a trend that is concerning.

    Nice reach though, I never said this was all Democrats, just examples of Democrats being anything but classy.

    You should look into what Obama has done to those who are critical of him in Chicago (particularly the press). For all the bagging on Bush about his Rovian tactics, he doesn't have on the Obama thought police. I shudder to think what happens if he gets into the Oval Office.

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    Hacking is wrong, but so is using a personal email account to conduct state business.

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    Ain't over 'till its over MaNuMaNiAc's Avatar
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    Do you see Republicans (or their kids) doing the same ? It's part of the problem in this country. The extreme outliers on the left are getting to the point where if you don't agree with them they feel violence and vandalism are justified. From the I mentioned above to them killing abortion doctors, etc. it's a trend that is concerning.

    Nice reach though, I never said this was all Democrats, just examples of Democrats being anything but classy.

    You should look into what Obama has done to those who are critical of him in Chicago (particularly the press). For all the bagging on Bush about his Rovian tactics, he doesn't have on the Obama thought police. I shudder to think what happens if he gets into the Oval Office.
    wrong, you said "Dems". Since when does saying "democrats" mean just some of them?? Elaborate if you want to be clear, otherwise people only read what you post.

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    And another Democratic rep's kid was arrested for slashing tires of vehicles at the Republican National Convention.

    Stay classy, Dems
    And some hillbilly assassinated the head of the Arkansas Democratic Party.

    Stay classy, Reps

    Two can play this game.

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    Palin E-Mail Hacker Says It Was Easy

    A person claiming to be the hacker who obtained access to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's private Yahoo e-mail on Tuesday has posted a supposed first-person account of the hack, revealing the relatively simple steps he says he took to crack the private e-mail of the Republican vice-presidential candidate.

    The story was briefly posted Wednesday to the 4chan forum where the hack first surfaced. Bloggers have connected the handle of the poster, "Rubico," to an e-mail address, and tentatively identified the owner as a college student in Tennessee.

    Threat Level was unable to reach the student by phone because his number is unlisted. A person who identified himself as the student's father, when reached at home, said he could not talk about the matter and would have no comment. The father is a Democratic state representative in Tennessee. Threat Level is not identifying them by name because authorities have not identified any suspects in the case, and the link to the student so far is tenuous. The father, in a second call with Threat Level late Thursday afternoon, said that neither he nor his son has been contacted by any law enforcement authorities. A local Tennessee paper had erroneously reported that his son had been contacted by authorities, he told Threat Level.

    As detailed in the postings, the Palin hack didn't require any real skill. Instead, the hacker simply reset Palin's password using her birthdate, ZIP code and information about where she met her spouse -- the security question on her Yahoo account, which was answered (Wasilla High) by a simple Google search.

    The simplicity of the attack, of course, makes it no less illegal.

    The hacker said that he read all of the e-mails in the Palin account and found "nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped. All I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family."

    Once the hacker had read the e-mails in Palin's account, he said he suddenly realized what he'd done and how vulnerable he was to being caught, since he'd used only a single proxy service to hide his IP address.

    yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this ever got to the FBI I was ed, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapid all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

    Once he posted the information to 4chan -- the stronghold of the Anonymous griefer collective -- a good Samaritan tried to step in to protect Palin by resetting her password and sending an e-mail to one of her aides, Ivy Frye. But the white hat posted a screen shot of that e-mail to 4chan, and it included the new password. That triggered a feeding frenzy on the forum, as legions of channers competed to log in and reset Palin's password again.

    That flurry of activity triggered a security feature that froze Palin's account for 24 hours, which was long enough for the information to hit the media. Palin, or someone in her camp, closed the account early Wednesday morning.

    The postings telling the story have been deleted from 4chan, so I've included them below.



    rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:57:22 No.85782652

    o, /b/ as many of you might already know, last night sarah palin’s yahoo was “hacked” and caps were posted on /b/, i am the lurker who did it, and i would like to tell the story.

    In the past couple days news had come to light about palin using a yahoo mail account, it was in news stories and such, a thread was started full of new s trying to do something that would not get this off the ground, for the next 2 hours the acct was locked from password recovery presumably from all this bull spamming.

    after the password recovery was reenabled, it took seriously 45 mins on wikipedia and google to find the info, Birthday? 15 seconds on wikipedia, zip code? well she had always been from wasilla, and it only has 2 zip codes (thanks online postal service!)

    the second was somewhat harder, the question was “where did you meet your spouse?” did some research, and apparently she had eloped with mister palin after college, if youll look on some of the screen s that I took and other fellow anon have so graciously put on photobucket you will see the google search for “palin eloped” or some such in one of the tabs.

    I found out later though more research that they met at high school, so I did variations of that, high, high school, eventually hit on “Wasilla high” I promptly changed the password to popcorn and took a cold shower…

    >> rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727

    this is all verifiable if some anal /b/ wants to think Im a troll, and there isn’t any hard proof to the contrary, but anyone who had followed the thread from the beginning to the 404 will know I probably am not, the picture I posted this topic with is the same one as the original thread.

    I read though the emails… ALL OF THEM… before I posted, and what I concluded was anticlimactic, there was nothing there, nothing incriminating, nothing that would derail her campaign as I had hoped, all I saw was personal stuff, some clerical stuff from when she was governor…. And pictures of her family

    I then started a topic on /b/, peeps asked for pics or gtfo and I obliged, then it started to get big

    Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this ever got to the FBI I was ed, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapid all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

    Then the white knight er came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the baggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things
    .

    Gabriel Ramuglia who operates Ctunnel, the internet anonymizing service the hacker used to post the information from Palin's account to the 4chan forum, told Threat Level this morning that the FBI had contacted him yesterday to obtain his traffic logs. Ramuglia said he had about 80 gigabytes of logs to process and hadn't yet looked for the information the FBI was seeking but planned to be in touch with the agents today.

    Ramuglia said the screenshots of Palin's e-mail account, which the hacker posted online, will help him narrow his search, since they revealed most of the Ctunnel URL that was at the top of the hacker's browser when he took the screen shot.

    (This post was updated with details about a phone call with the father of the college student and information from the owner of the proxy service he used.)

    Photo: AP/Charles Dharapak
    http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/200...e-mail-ha.html

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    And some hillbilly assassinated the head of the Arkansas Democratic Party.

    Stay classy, Reps

    Two can play this game.
    thats arkansas, though. the KKK headquarters is there, and its one of the most meth-heavy states in the union.

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    THIS internet was serious business

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    Most of the comments in this thread are pointless. Every few weeks a new scandal arises and when it's a republican involved all the democrats post it and then the next day a democrat's scandal arises and all the republican post it, again as some sort of proof of something. Geez, why don't some of you try to have at least a shred of objectivity... I'm gonna guess this behavior is amplified by being anonymous on the internet. I hope most of you don't use these same ridiculously biased debating techniques with family members, friends, neighbors, and co-workers.

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    David Kernell's appeal fails, his conviction under Sarbanes-Oxley stands:

    http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions...2a0027p-06.pdf

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    OP: 09-20-2008

    Please stop

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    you don't care how it turns out? not at all curious what happens after the media frenzy subsides?

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    and didn't it strike you as odd that Sarbanes-Oxley covers something like this?

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    Communication retention is a big part of SOX.

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