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    I don't hate Timmy. I hate Timmy fans who are okay with watching the greatest PF to ever play the game to have single digit scoring games. Or have games where eastern european s no one has ever heard about dance all over him. All while paying the old 20+ million a year.
    You wouldn't call a player you even remotely liked a bag would you? Or would you?

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    Caeman is offline. Either the troll has conceded defeat or his mommy just put him to bed. Let's see if he returns for more punishment soon.

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    You wouldn't call a player you even remotely liked a bag would you? Or would you?
    Does it really matter how I answer? You won't believe me anyway. Fine, I'll just refer to him as tired and old. He isn't a bag. He sometimes just plays like one. I imagine Manu being out doesn't help the cause much.

    I'll tell you one thing though. I'm a bigger fan than Mavs and Spurs Fan, that's for sure. I can't imagine how a Mavs v Spurs games goes for him/her.

    Terry for 3!
    <flies around livingroom like a jet>

    Manu answers with a 3 of his own.
    <kiss his gold medal replica>

    Timmy goes to the bank and scores
    <grabs his basketball and hugs it Timmy-like>

    Nowitzki with the fadeaway, money
    <Knocks back another Hefe>

    It must be a beautful thing, but somehow just doesn't sit well with me.

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    Does it really matter how I answer? You won't believe me anyway. Fine, I'll just refer to him as tired and old. He isn't a bag. He sometimes just plays like one. I imagine Manu being out doesn't help the cause much.

    I'll tell you one thing though. I'm a bigger fan than Mavs and Spurs Fan, that's for sure. I can't imagine how a Mavs v Spurs games goes for him/her.

    Terry for 3!
    <flies around livingroom like a jet>

    Manu answers with a 3 of his own.
    <kiss his gold medal replica>

    Timmy goes to the bank and scores
    <grabs his basketball and hugs it Timmy-like>

    Nowitzki with the fadeaway, money
    <Knocks back another Hefe>

    It must be a beautful thing, but somehow just doesn't sit well with me.
    Aha! You're back and I am pleasantly surprised that you say you'll be quitting the bag talk. Perhaps you're making some progress but that remains to be seen. We shall see if you reform your ways in the weeks to come. You might eventually need therapy, but let's see how this goes first.

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    I'll tell you one thing though. I'm a bigger fan than Mavs and Spurs Fan, that's for sure. I can't imagine how a Mavs v Spurs games goes for him/her.
    Since you don't include yourself as part of the set of "spurs fans", you are by your very nature a troll; you purport to be a spurs fan in previous conversations and are indicated as such by your profile. You have claimed repeatedly that you were just dropping truth bombs from the perspective of a fellow fan and appreciator of Tim Duncan and the Spurs, when in fact your account exists to play the subtle legacy erosion game, and in all likelihood you are a sockpuppet of a Mav or Laker fan.

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    Since you don't include yourself as part of the set of "spurs fans", you are by your very nature a troll; you purport to be a spurs fan in previous conversations and are indicated as such by your profile. You have claimed repeatedly that you were just dropping truth bombs from the perspective of a fellow fan and appreciator of Tim Duncan and the Spurs, when in fact your account exists to play the subtle legacy erosion game, and in all likelihood you are a sockpuppet of a Mav or Laker fan.
    You are very insecure if you think someone who post on a forum board could ever erode anyone's legacy.

    For example, do you think your avatar or sig do anything to bring down Kobe's legacy? I mean, won't Kobe be considered one of the greats regardless of your silly avatar/sig which are designed to erode a particular legacy?

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    Whining because a player is getting old and isn't as good as he used to be is to be oblivious of the laws of nature, tbh.

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    Whining because a player is getting old and isn't as good as he used to be is to be oblivious of the laws of nature, tbh.
    I am sorry TIMVP but that guy gets on my nerves with his dissing of a top ten or so legend! I mean he calls him a tired old back, well that guy got them 4 les man! I am just sick of this dude to begin with the last few days. No Spurs fan has a right to talk bad about THE LEGEND! NO FAN IN GENERAL DOES! He needs to go.

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    You are very insecure if you think someone who post on a forum board could ever erode anyone's legacy.

    For example, do you think your avatar or sig do anything to bring down Kobe's legacy? I mean, won't Kobe be considered one of the greats regardless of your silly avatar/sig which are designed to erode a particular legacy?
    I don't incorrectly purport to be a fan of another team, as you do. You play the game, bro. And you play it poorly, or I wouldn't have noticed you playin' it

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    I am sorry TIMVP but that guy gets on my nerves with his dissing of a top ten or so legend! I mean he calls him a tired old back, well that guy got them 4 les man! I am just sick of this dude to begin with the last few days. No Spurs fan has a right to talk bad about THE LEGEND! NO FAN IN GENERAL DOES! He needs to go.

    You could, you know, just not read any of this.

    Also, top ten or so legend? Try top 10 player of all time. I'm biased so i have him ahead of Shaq. So i'm thinking at least 9th best player (just to have Shaq at 10, and Kobe not in at all )

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    You could, you know, just not read any of this.

    Also, top ten or so legend? Try top 10 player of all time. I'm biased so i have him ahead of Shaq. So i'm thinking at least 9th best player (just to have Shaq at 10, and Kobe not in at all )
    Okay I like you then bro! TOSB one night though got to me! He is what he is, a top ten of all times player! I thought you were just all out hating bro. I have him ahead of Shaq too.

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    Okay I like you then bro! TOSB one night though got to me! He is what he is, a top ten of all times player! I thought you were just all out hating bro. I have him ahead of Shaq too.
    Honestly putting Timmy ahead of Shaq is tough. You have to give Shaq credit for leading LA to a three-peat. On the other hand, Shaq was allowed to camp in the paint during that run so there should be an asterick attached to that run of championships. I remember watching Shaq bully for position in the paint against the Blazers and Kings and that asshole would take 8 or 9 seconds (on the short end) to establish himself and no calls was ever made. I even remember during one playoff game there was a segment that showed the blatant 3 sec violations that were not being called. Quite a shame really. Stern for that bull !

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    I don't hate Timmy. I hate Timmy fans who are okay with watching the greatest PF to ever play the game to have single digit scoring games. Or have games where eastern european s no one has ever heard about dance all over him. All while paying the old 20+ million a year.
    what the are you rambling about? you have it all wrong. no one is "okay" with Timmy D getting pushed around by a 300 lber. no one loves the fact their favorite players eventually grow old and decline and retire. we just have this thing called respect, something you obviously don't have. and let me tell you, sir, if there's one man you should respect if you consider yourself any kind of spurs fan, it's tim duncan.

    ps tim duncan has taken less money for the sake of the spurs.

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    I can not believe any so called spurs fans are bagging the great one out. Blasphemy.

    There wouldn't even be an NBA team in san antonio if it wasn't for Tim. Even in his advanced age do not take Tim Duncan for granted.

    One day he will be gone and things will never be the same again. San Antonio will not be the same without him, we will lose all iden y. Show the big fella some respect.

    When he retires, spur fans will mourn immediately. Later down the track the rest of the NBA will begin to realise his greatness and miss the fact the NBA isn't the same wthout the gentle giant that quietly dominated the league from day 1.

    Timmy has a few nicknames, TD, Tim B Dunkn, The Big Fundamental, one of my favorites came from shaq

    "The Godfather of the West"

    Like all of you, i miss tim's 25 point 15 rebounds 4 assist and 3 block nights while holding the likes of KMART to 3-23 shooting.

    Unfortunately Father Time is undefeated. Not even The Godfather of the West can defeat father time.

    Enjoy Tim Duncan while you can. Savour every minute of it.

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    Agree with Russo21 all the way ... I love Timmy ... he can do as he pleases and I will enjoy every minute of it ...

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    ...listening to people who say he's done.

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    Sublime to think he is done - watch and learn as Tim increasingly comes up big down the stretch of the season......

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    Being a shadow of Tim Duncan is like having a portion of Warren Buffet's wealth.

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    People. IT'S THE REGULAR SEASON. Not only that it's a compressed stupid regular season. Every game is not going to be played like a playoff game. Deal with it.

    And, no one on the Spurs. least of all Tim, gives a tiny crap about what Tim's stats are. Winning is not about individual stats.

    And, Shaq and Duncan couldn't be more different players. Comparing them is pretty stupid.

    And, no one is saying what's actually interesting about Duncan. He is doing a great job of adjusting his game (like Jordan did) and his training to (a) match his teammates abilities and (b) compensating for his advancing age. He's playing like a surgeon out there on offense, he's reinvented his game by adding a deadly jumper from the key and a fadeaway spin jumper on the baseline, and doing an amazingly good job anchoring the D and guarding the paint and blocking shots.

    To dis him because he's not getting monster stats is just stupid. You've got to watch the game.

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    Lets put it this way exactly many others centers league wide (as Hollinger* considers him and what he plays most of the time these days) you would rather have healthy and heading into a playoff series? IMO no more than a handful of centers or pf (however you consider him these days) are capable of stepping up and influencing a game and a series in so many positive ways than Duncan no matter what his age or declining numbers in the regular season.

    phttp://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?position=c&action=upsell&appRedirect=ht tp%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2 fstatistics%3fposition%3dc

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    The fat lady isn't even warming up yet!

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    Honestly putting Timmy ahead of Shaq is tough. You have to give Shaq credit for leading LA to a three-peat. On the other hand, Shaq was allowed to camp in the paint during that run so there should be an asterick attached to that run of championships. I remember watching Shaq bully for position in the paint against the Blazers and Kings and that asshole would take 8 or 9 seconds (on the short end) to establish himself and no calls was ever made. I even remember during one playoff game there was a segment that showed the blatant 3 sec violations that were not being called. Quite a shame really. Stern for that bull !
    This is true, it is hard to put him ahead of Shaq, but he was allowed to camp like you said in the lane and he was huge on top of that so nobody physically could take an elbow to the face and then they get dunked on with the O foul (Not called alot). Shaq was size, not much skill outside of dunking though.

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    Some interesting stat as I browsing Tim's profile on bball-reference is the Win Shares from best to worst over a player's career.

    Tim had his 2 best seasons between 01 and 03 with ~17-18 win shares. The rest of the time he was steadily in the 11-13 range except his 2nd season (8.7) and the last (7.7).

    These numbers are consistent with other greats like Erving or Barkley, who saw a sharp decline in their 15th (Tim's current season) and 16th seasons.

    The numbers are also quite consistent with e.g. Garnett (despite the bad start in his career) except KG started declining strongly in his 14th season. Larry Bird started declining strongly in his 10th season. Malone (a very durable player) declined in his 14th but had a revival for a couple of seasons.

    All in all this shows that Duncan is generally on the same track as other all-time greats, and actually would tend to decline slower than most.

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    I've never looked to Tim's stats this year until reading this thread.(I'm sure Tim also didn't).

    Stats re noot important in this stupid lock-out shortened regular season. On the other hand Tim is still producing 13.5 pts 8 rebs and going to free-throw line more than last year. There is nothing shows that Tim is done yet.

    Moreover Tim is a very smart guy and maybe one of the players with highest bb IQ. He can use his energy very econmially and can play next 2 or 3 years unless he doesn't want to rest.

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    19 Points, 17 Rebounds, 4 Blocks, and 3 assists.

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