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Why would the Suns do that seeing how difficult it is to get legit 7 footers in this league?
RL is averaging about 14mins and 5pts per game. I doubt any team will trade their 1st round pick in this year's draft. Secondly, it's not like the Suns will get a 7 footer in return so the best they could hope for is 1 or 2 young players. Blair may be undersized but the Suns already have a center in Gortat and he would be a perfect asset off the bench. Plus we are throwing in Anderson who still has upside. I don't think the trade is as unreasonable as you may think.Would I want the Spurs to do it? Sure.
Is it realistic?
I know he's not a star... the Suns are a rather small team already, and you want them to go for Blair?
Why would the Suns do that seeing how difficult it is to get legit 7 footers in this league?
He's in the last year of his rookie contract. The Suns may have already decided that they won't be willing to pay the price to keep him when he hits free agency. His usage this year suggests that could be true. In that case it makes sense for them to trade him.
Whether one cheap year of Dejuan Blair is the best they could get for Lopez if they put him on the market is another story.
And I agree with several others in this thread. No way I include a 2012 first round pick to get Lopez.
LMAO. Lopez WAS himself a former first round pick in 2008. #15 in fact.
Wow. I just don't agree with all the ppl crying over a lost pick.
Late 1st round picks (like the ones the spurs are likely to garner) aren't terribly valuable overrall IMO. The only teams that would really be looking for those are teams that have thrown in the towel and are looking to start serious long term rebuilding (like perhaps the suns). Last time I checked, the spurs are still right in the hunt for a le and both Ginobili (before injury) and Parker are playing at an all-star level. They are literally one piece (a solid big) away from having all the pieces of the puzzle (IMO). Why wouldn't give up a silly late 1st round pick to upgrade to Lopez? Lopez himself is a former
1st round pick with 3 years of nba experience under his belt who could help out not only immediately but also perhaps in future rebuilding plans.
I mean no disrespect, but that just makes no sense to me. I also think its very possible Lopez could become a better player in the right situation (maybe not as good as his brother but perhaps close). I would estimate there is probably a 97% chance the spurs will not do better than Lopez drafting in the late 20's. Even given Pop's decent history of drafting. So you're essentially saying you would give up on a 97% chance to improve the team and more importantly, improve it NOW as opposed to next season. That's insane.
For a team like the spurs who haven't thrown in that towel yet, getting a legit big like Lopez for a late first round pick is a no-brainer even if the frontcourt is solid, much less when the frontcourt is one of the weaker and shallowest in the league being overrun on a nightly basis because Pop has no other choices but to play Blair and Bonner extended minutes.
No disrespect, but if he was a legit big he wouldn't be available for a late first round pick. If he was a legit big, the team that drafted him would be playing him more than 14 mpg in his 4th year with the team. No disrespect....
Yah, so? Gortat played about the same minutes during his stint in Orlando until last season.
You gonna tell me that Gortat isn't worth a late 1st round pick either?
Tragic logic fail.Yah, so? Gortat played about the same minutes during his stint in Orlando until last season.
You gonna tell me that Gortat isn't worth a late 1st round pick either?
Exactly, 7 footers are becoming more and more rare and he's still young.. I'm sure they can get something better.
How is it a "tragic logic fail"
Gortat was in his 4th year and just needing a change of scenery to get his career untracked. Enter Phoenix where he has blossomed into an allstar level big man. Lopez is also going to be in his 5th season. Both put up very similar numbers in their first 4 seasons. In fact, Lopez has put up better numbers in his limited minutes. I just think the up tempo style of PHO is a bad fit for him, and fits Gortat like a glove. Lopez might flourish in another setting.
And yet some in this thread are unwilling to give up a late 1st round pick. Which is essentially saying they would not trade Cory Joseph for a legit 7 footer just entering his prime.
It's pretty comical actually if you really start to think about it.
It is a tragic logic fail both specifically and generally. That you can't or won't see it is not surprising.
Lopez has had his moments of quality production. Alongside Amare he was a valued starter for his defense and athleticism and was a key rotational change that allowed the Suns to make it to the Conference Finals.
I understand why his current production doesn't seem 1st-rounder worthy, but he's 23, has shown he can be a valuable starter, is a legit 7-footer and has some skill. He's a project, yes, but a late 1st for him makes plenty of sense.
Suns hold no need for Blair, no matter the quality off the bench.
Anderson and a 1st would probably do it, but I can't see it actually getting done.
Well, if the Suns want to rebuild (and they will sooner rather than later), you would think Lopez fits those plans.
Otherwise, wouldn't they be better served by waiting and doing a S&T or getting a trade exception (provided they find a partner for that)?
Frankly, I don't think Blair is an upgrade for them, and I also don't think you can get for Blair the same you can get for Lopez.
I agree.
I also didn't suggest that Blair+Anderson would be enough to get PHX to part with Lopez.
I don't know what logic world you're living in but here is a recap:
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/.../marcin-gortat
Gortat's career stats ^
Averaged much less minutes than Lopez even (7, 12, 13, & 15 minutes in his first 4 seasons.)
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In essence you have just told everyone you would not waste a ty 1st round pick on Marcin Gortat because according to you if he's only playing 15 minutes a game in his 4th season he must be worthless.the team that drafted him would be playing him more than 14 mpg in his 4th year with the team. No disrespect.... ]
You fail at logic sir.
I didn't backtrack at all.
You just can't read.
And life is too short to spoon feed you and explain the massive failure of logic in your posts.
I see you didn't delete your post quickly enough.
You spend all day on a basketball message board, who the are you kidding? You have time. You should just admit that your logic failed today and give me the props I deserve for calling you out.I didn't backtrack at all.
You just can't read.
And life is too short to spoon feed you and explain the massive failure of logic in your posts.
I see you didn't delete your post quickly enough.
If all you have to offer is an assortment of smilies then I will file this under the "failed logic" category and call it a day.
I was going to just let it go and let you feel "superior".I see you didn't delete your post quickly enough.
Or you realized how absurd the post was.
I see you're having reading comprehension failures today as well..
None, whatsoever.
In no way do I feel my posts or logic were "absurd" in any capacity. In fact I have explained my positions on the matter in several different ways. You however have done nothing to explain your own, citing that its too much effort to do so.
So by all means, if you want to continue believing that just because a guy in his 4th season getting only 14 minutes a game somehow reflects negatively enough to not make him worth a late 1st round pick, then please continue and we will all get a nice laugh out of your failed logic.
You're entirely welcome to your self-declared victory.
Your logic, however, remains massively flawed. A fact enforced by your most recent post.
TJastal at it again I see.
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