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    I'm poplovin' it! TJastal's Avatar
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    You're entirely welcome to your self-declared victory.

    Your logic, however, remains massively flawed. A fact enforced by your most recent post.
    You just keep believing that and we'll just keep right on laughing at you.

    If he was a legit big, the team that drafted him would be playing him more than 14 mpg in his 4th year with the team. No disrespect....
    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/.../marcin-gortat

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    You just keep believing that and we'll just keep right on laughing at you.



    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/.../marcin-gortat
    The laughter you hear is all in your head.

    The funny thing is that you keep making the case against yourself and don't realize it. Actually, it's rather sad.

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    You just keep believing that and we'll just keep right on laughing at you.



    http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/.../marcin-gortat
    We'll huh? Meaning you and someone else?

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    Gortat wasn't worth a first rounder when he was traded:

    http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6938

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    Gortat wasn't worth a first rounder when he was traded:

    http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6938


    Hey Mel_13 looks like the peanut gallery has arrived to back up your asinine claims.

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    Hey Mel_13 looks like the peanut gallery has arrived to back up your asinine claims.
    Still laughing alone, I see.

    So sad.

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    Is there a definiton or word, for this strange fetish of tjastal, to get ted on daily on a sports forum?

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    Is there a definiton or word, for this strange fetish of tjastal, to get ted on daily on a sports forum?
    It's called getting tjastal...


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    Peanut gallery hard at work I see. Well, looks like you're not alone in this, Mel13. They also wouldn't dare trade away a late 1st round pick for a Marcin Gortat or Robin Lopez. Not when there's a chance of getting a Cory Joseph type player. No way!

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    Still laughing alone, I see.

    So sad.

    Mel - a few games back you reminded me not to get into a ridiculous argument with a pinhead in the game thread. I hope I'm not too late to return the favor.

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    Peanut gallery hard at work I see. Well, looks like you're not alone in this, Mel13. They also wouldn't dare trade away a late 1st round pick for a Marcin Gortat or Robin Lopez. Not when there's a chance of getting a Cory Joseph type player. No way!
    Continuing to make the case against yourself.

    Really, really sad.

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    Peanut gallery hard at work I see.
    No, its really not hard at all.

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    Mel - a few games back you reminded me not to get into a ridiculous argument with a pinhead in the game thread. I hope I'm not too late to return the favor.
    Sound advice, I must admit.

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    Mel - I really have no idea what you're arguing about but damnit quit making the poplovin' crew & peanut gallery look bad. Especially to the arch nemesis anti-Pop Tjastal. You ed up, bro. Now take my advice and quit getting into ridiculous arguments that you can't possibly win. I hope I'm not too late to save your hide .

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    I expect for R. Lopez to not be a Phoenix Sun next year and I think we have a chance to snatch him up at a low cost. I still don't know if a 1st rounder is worth it. Isn't he on the last year of his rookie scale contract and he will probably want a pay increase next year. He hasn't played to his potential yet but think a change in scenery would do well for his game.

    If not R. Lopez than who?? I looked around the league for possible trade deals and this was the only plausible move that made sense for both teams. We better do something otherwise it's Blair/Bonner against the top PF's in the playoffs. I wouldn't be pressing for a trade so much if Tiago started and played 30min plus. Unfortunately, the turd ball continues under Pop.

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    Late 1st round picks (like the ones the spurs are likely to garner) aren't terribly valuable overrall IMO.






    , might as well include him for TJ.


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    , might as well include him for TJ.



    Tjastal just got tjastaled on.

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    I expect for R. Lopez to not be a Phoenix Sun next year and I think we have a chance to snatch him up at a low cost. I still don't know if a 1st rounder is worth it. Isn't he on the last year of his rookie scale contract and he will probably want a pay increase next year. He hasn't played to his potential yet but think a change in scenery would do well for his game.

    If not R. Lopez than who?? I looked around the league for possible trade deals and this was the only plausible move that made sense for both teams. We better do something otherwise it's Blair/Bonner against the top PF's in the playoffs. I wouldn't be pressing for a trade so much if Tiago started and played 30min plus. Unfortunately, the turd ball continues under Pop.
    I did a look at the possible trade targets/buyout candidates among the league's bottom dwellers. The only other trade target that seemed the least bit realistic from both sides was Johan Petro from the Nets. Kind of depressing.

    As for buyout candidates after the March 15th deadline, these may be some possible late season additions:

    Diaw
    Najera
    Turiaf
    Kaman
    Carl Landry
    Ben Wallace
    Okur
    Humphries
    Magloire

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    Lopez is the exact type of big the Spurs don't need and clearly have no interest in. They don't want a center, who can't defend power fowards or shoot, because they essentially view Splitter as that type of player and realize he's better than any other big of that ilk that they could get.

    What they need and want, is basically an athletic version of McDyess. Someone who can shoot, defend power forwards and hold their own on the glass.

    If Diaw get's bought out, he's someone the Spurs would definitely pursue and probably get. He's unmotivated and soft, but because him and Parker are best friends and they're a team trying to contend, they probably feel like they could coax him into caring for a few months (and they'd probably be right). When he's in shape and the spirit moves him, he can do virtually everything at least adequately, save for rebounding.

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    It's called getting tjastal...


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    How is it a "tragic logic fail"

    Gortat was in his 4th year and just needing a change of scenery to get his career untracked. Enter Phoenix where he has blossomed into an allstar level big man. Lopez is also going to be in his 5th season. Both put up very similar numbers in their first 4 seasons. In fact, Lopez has put up better numbers in his limited minutes. I just think the up tempo style of PHO is a bad fit for him, and fits Gortat like a glove. Lopez might flourish in another setting.
    Gortat was playing this minutes behind Dwight Howard. Robin Lopez is playing ty minute behind Marcin Gortat. Enough said

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    Lopez is the exact type of big the Spurs don't need and clearly have no interest in. They don't want a center, who can't defend power fowards or shoot, because they essentially view Splitter as that type of player and realize he's better than any other big of that ilk that they could get.

    What they need and want, is basically an athletic version of McDyess. Someone who can shoot, defend power forwards and hold their own on the glass.

    If Diaw get's bought out, he's someone the Spurs would definitely pursue and probably get. He's unmotivated and soft, but because him and Parker are best friends and they're a team trying to contend, they probably feel like they could coax him into caring for a few months (and they'd probably be right). When he's in shape and the spirit moves him, he can do virtually everything at least adequately, save for rebounding.
    Getting Lopez would allow Tiago to start. Lopez takes his place on the bench.

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    I did a look at the possible trade targets/buyout candidates among the league's bottom dwellers. The only other trade target that seemed the least bit realistic from both sides was Johan Petro from the Nets. Kind of depressing.

    As for buyout candidates after the March 15th deadline, these may be some possible late season additions:

    Diaw
    Najera
    Turiaf
    Kaman
    Carl Landry
    Ben Wallace
    Okur
    Humphries
    Magloire
    I like all except for Wallace and Magloire. Not sure how many will actually be available for the Spurs to make a serious run.

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    Remind me how this guy is an upgrade over Blair if you would. Oh that's right, he's 7 feet tall. And at 7 feet he averages a grand total of 4 points a game, a whopping 3 rebounds a game, and less than a block a game. But wait, wait, he is only playing 13 minutes a game, double that those minutes, then double his stats, 8 points a game, 6 boards, and a block and a half. I sure can't wait to get this guy!!! Would be such an asset because......he's taller than Blair. Blair on the other hand is doing just about what this guy would be doing in 26 minutes, but Blair is doing it in 22 minutes. Pass.

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    Getting Lopez would allow Tiago to start. Lopez takes his place on the bench.
    Yeah, but I don't think they want Splitter to start, because they don't seem to view him as someone who can consistently guard power forwards. If they can't rectify the big situation either at the deadline or after the buyout period post deadline, then I could see them eventually going to this as a last resort. Either post deadline or when they're in desperation mode in the playoffs. Like last season, when it took until game four for Splitter to replace Blair in the rotation.

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