Why are athiests so hated in the USA?

[JoeChalupa]

What do you know about physics? I know enough. You're saying a plane exists that breaks the laws and constants by which this existence abides? Is that what you're saying? Please prove that anything like an afterlife that breaks the rules exists.

Understand this: You are terrified of death. You'll believe anything to help you not think about that. It's in your evolution to believe in supers ion... you like to believe that you are immortal. You're not. You're mortal. You'll die. Maybe parts of you will be a part of another living thing way down the line of this current universe's life, but you won't know. You should just focus on being happy. If that is believing in supers ion, then do it. Call me a bull ter, that's fine. Whatever makes you happy, but do not impede on my belief and right to happiness, or I will break the foundation of everything that you base your happiness off of.

Prove it and go for it. My faith and belief is stronger than anything you could possibly post in here and at no time did I impede on your right to chose not to believe. And as a believer...I've already found happiness.

[NewcastleKEG]

It is "without belief", but "belief" can be interpreted different ways. The usual way it's interpreted is without belief in a specific God. An atheist could still believe there's some universal karmic rule in effect, but that it wasn't put in place by any specific being. Most people wouldn't put believing in some sort of "force" as on the same level of theism. Admittedly, we are somewhat splitting hairs here.

I'd have to disagree & you are right it comes down to the individuals interpretation

IMO, atheist has to stand for the specific individuals who have NO belief whatsoever. Otherwise do we just call those people the non-believers?

[z0sa]

So your religion is of dictionary.com? Interesting.... did you find the word 'surmise' in the books of your temple?

Is atheism defined as without belief, yes or no? And if so, is that solely my definition?

Thanks in advance.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

listen the original claim was made by the poster, now this may be a shock to you but you can't just go around saying positive or negative and here's why. Because his claim is a positive for an atheist and a negative for a christian. So yes he has to defend his claim

Wow you're dumb.

Positive = "I believe X exists"
Negative = "I believe X doesn't exist"

Which one has the burden of proof?

[NewcastleKEG]

Except that "without" and "rejection" are completely different words. I am currently without a Mountain Dew. I don't reject Mountain Dew.

Which I think further argues that Atheist has to be ALL or NOTHING, as in they believed there are no spirts, karma, anything. Just birth, life & death

[mavs>spurs]

saying "rape sucks, but!" as if you're an expert on rape and have any idea what kind of experience it is for victims.

It's very Christian of you to care less about victims of rape than unborn fetuses tbh. I'm sure Jesus would be proud of the compassion you show towards rape victims.

and you are?

you athiest slingers want it your way or the high way, and if someone else disagrees then they're just ignorant and keeping mankind from progressing

just admit that you hate religion and get it off your chest.

[JoeChalupa]

Prove there is one. Or prove there's no Zeus, while we're at it. Or prove that I'm not 20 feet tall.

We've met and you are nowhere near 20 feet tall. I cannot prove there is an after life but you cannot prove there isn't one. Simple as that. All this other talk still leads to the same conlusion that there is no proof either way and that is a fact.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

and you are?

you athiest slingers want it your way or the high way, and if someone else disagrees then they're just ignorant and keeping mankind from progressing

just admit that you hate religion and get it off your chest.

Neat ad-hominem counter argument.

you're just a slinging athiest

[Trainwreck2100]

Wow you're dumb.

Positive = "I believe X exists"
Negative = "I believe X doesn't exist"

Which one has the burden of proof?

Let me make it closer to home for you
Israel says
I believe iran nukes exist

Iran says
Iran nukes don't exist

Which nation opens the door for the UN security council?

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

And yes I'll freely say it I hate all forms of Western religion (Islam, Judaism, Christianity). All of it. Idk what that does to help your argument that victims of rape should be forced to have the kid their rapist impregnated them with.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Let me make it closer to home for you
Israel says
I believe iran nukes exist

Iran says
Iran nukes don't exist

Which nation opens the door for the UN security council?

That's a re ed example, especially since Israel isn't "Close to home for me". I also haven't heard anything about the UN security council giving a about what Israel says (outside of the US).

OJ Simpson: I'm not guilty
Prosecutor: OJ is guilty

Which one has to prove their claim in court?

[Proxy]

Prove it and go for it. My faith and belief is stronger than anything you could possibly post in here and at no time did I impede on your right to chose not to believe. And as a believer...I've already found happiness.

I kinda did.... by pointing to the existence of an afterlife breaking rules by which our right to function by relativity and see light exists... for example...

But if it made you unhappy, then why would I want to? It's not within my morals to take happiness away. You said I would go to , which is an insult in your mind. You asked me to prove it, and I gave you facts that support my claim and not yours. I have yet to hear anything that supports the existence of an afterlife.

Good luck. I was a Christian once. I know both sides.

[mavs>spurs]

And yes I'll freely say it I hate all forms of Western religion (Islam, Judaism, Christianity)

no way

[Proxy]

We've met and you are nowhere near 20 feet tall. I cannot prove there is an after life but you cannot prove there isn't one. Simple as that. All this other talk still leads to the same conlusion that there is no proof either way and that is a fact.

Ah! I figured you out! You don't understand what a fact is... there lies the root of your problems, good sir!

[baseline bum]

Prove it and go for it. My faith and belief is stronger than anything you could possibly post in here and at no time did I impede on your right to chose not to believe. And as a believer...I've already found happiness.

You don't choose whether to believe or not. It would be like choosing to see grass as blue and the sky as yellow.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

no way

Did I ever deny that I hate all forms of Western Religion?

acting like you won the argument because I said something that I was implying all along

[z0sa]

Compassion.

a to you for this response.

[Trainwreck2100]

That's a re ed example, especially since Israel isn't "Close to home for me".

OJ Simpson: I'm not guilty
Prosecutor: OJ is guilty

Which one has to prove their claim in court?

In my example the negative had the burden of proof thus disproving your re ed argument that being against something automatically keeps the burden of proof off of anyone being seen as "negative"

Prosecutor:OJ simpson is not innocent
OJ Simpson: I'm innocent

The not is on the prosecutor side now thus flipping the negative argument. See how that works

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

In my example the negative had the burden of proof thus disproving your re ed argument that being against something automatically keeps the burden of proof off of anyone being seen as "negative"

Prosecutor:OJ simpson is not innocent
OJ Simpson: I'm innocent

The not is on the prosecutor side now thus flipping the negative argument. See how that works

So you're saying that in a court of law OJ Simpson has to prove his innocence?

EDIT: Guilty and "not innocent" are different so in that sense you're right, but whether or not OJ is proven innocent determines jack . Casey Anthony wasn't proven innocent but she still doesn't get punished for a crime she was found "not guilty" for.

[mavs>spurs]

My argument is that it isn't athiests who are hated, it's vice versa. That's what I said from the beginning. And as an athiest who just admitted that you hate christianity, you proved my point.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

My argument is that it isn't athiests who are hated, it's vice versa. That's what I said from the beginning. And as an athiest who just admitted that you hate christianity, you proved my point.

I was arguing with you about imposing your beliefs on others, my argument had nothing to do with hate. I also said I hate all forms of Western religion, not just Christianity. If I lived in a country that was predominantly Muslim or predominantly Jewish, I'd talk as much about those religions as I do Christianity.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Big victory for all the religious people tonight as Rick Santorum is gonna win multiple primaries

[baseline bum]

Big victory for all the religious people tonight as Rick Santorum is gonna win multiple primaries

Only short-term though since Santorum getting the nomination would guarantee 4 more years of President Uncle Tom.

[baseline bum]

Oops, I mean Mullah Uncle Tom.

[DUNCANownsKOBE]

Only short-term though since Santorum getting the nomination would guarantee 4 more years of President Uncle Tom.

It's still a strong symbol that religion controls the Republican party so much that ejaculate and fecal matter can run a campaign around religion and become a serious candidate.


Christians 1
Atheists 0

If Rick Santorum wins the primary