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    Have they not learned their lesson after the George W. Bush years? Santorum represents everything that went wrong during the Bush years. Santorum's actually worse than Bush because he actually believes all the nonsense that Bush's adviser's were spewing to GW himself.

    Santorum supported the spending of the Bush administration, supported the stupid war in Iraq, supported increased domestic spending.

    Its no surprise that Romney or Paul aren't getting more traction in this party because most Republicans still view Bush as the gold standard Republican. That's why Santorum in still in this race. Deep down most Republicans are like him, even though they know he won't ever win the nomination or even come close to beating Obama. Still, the Republicans want a true George Bush conservative. Thankfully the rest of the country won't make the mistake of electing trash like Santorum.

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    Honestly, Americans are stupid in general. We live in a country where speeches make us think the world of someone rather than their actions on those speeches. Just because it sounds great, he said all the right words..so he deserves to be President. What morons.

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    The GOP is a joke at this point.

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    the OP is pretty on point. They are voting for a guy who thinks the worst president since Nixon was what the country needs. , Santorum credited the killing of Osama Bin Laden to the Bush administration

    They are voting for a guy who claimed the jihadists are building missile platforms in latin america.

    er not only wants to invade all the middle east, he would go to venezuela and cuba.

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    the OP is pretty on point. They are voting for a guy who thinks the worst president since Nixon was what the country needs. , Santorum credited the killing of Osama Bin Laden to the Bush administration

    They are voting for a guy who claimed the jihadists are building missile platforms in latin america.

    er not only wants to invade all the middle east, he would go to venezuela and cuba.
    They're not voting FOR anyone. They're voting against a couple of others.

    I live in Pa; watched Santorum get throttled in his last election HERE - and this is a state he HAS to win. I never understood why he was in the race in the first place; he can't win. But then again, neither can Romney, or Newt. If Paul got his message out, unfiltered, I think he would have a punchers chance (not a great chance, but a chance); it's catchy.

    ....and that is against the weakest in bent since Carter.

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    I think it's an understatement calling Bush the worst president since Nixon, the only presidents arguably worse than Bush were Warren G. Harding or any of the pro-slavery presidents right before Lincoln who did things to cause the civil war.

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    President Obama spoke at the national prayer breakfast... The president said that his Christian faith is the driving force behind his economic policies...So I guess instead of blaming Bush, it's now all Jesus’ fault...

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    I think it's an understatement calling Bush the worst president since Nixon, the only presidents arguably worse than Bush were Warren G. Harding or any of the pro-slavery presidents right before Lincoln who did things to cause the civil war.
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    What has Obama done that is different from Bush?

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    I think it's an understatement calling Bush the worst president since Nixon, the only presidents arguably worse than Bush were Warren G. Harding or any of the pro-slavery presidents right before Lincoln who did things to cause the civil war.
    Nixon was smart but a criminal, Bush a complete idiot and pretty much incompetent at most things.

    We can already see the fruits of Nixon presidency, he was guilty of war crimes in Vietnam, opening "trade" with China wich eventually lead to US industrial death, petrodollar bubble which is about to burst and send dollar to oblivion, not to mention Watergate crimes hurt the office of the president for probably forever.

    We have yet to see fully the "fruits" from Bush presidency in a few years, so we can't fully grasp how bad this presidency was. But it looks like Bush presidency will give Nixon's a run for his money.

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    What has Obama done that is different from Bush?
    shutdown a website quicker than Gitmo?

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    kill list of US citizens?

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    The continuities are many, so many in fact that continuity is the theme par excellence of Obama's presidency. But there are a few differences.

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    What has Obama done that is different from Bush?
    Damn good question.

    But it makes me wonder why the Republican base hates him so much.

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    Nixon was smart but a criminal, Bush a complete idiot and pretty much incompetent at most things.

    We can already see the fruits of Nixon presidency, he was guilty of war crimes in Vietnam, opening "trade" with China wich eventually lead to US industrial death, petrodollar bubble which is about to burst and send dollar to oblivion, not to mention Watergate crimes hurt the office of the president for probably forever.

    We have yet to see fully the "fruits" from Bush presidency in a few years, so we can't fully grasp how bad this presidency was. But it looks like Bush presidency will give Nixon's a run for his money.
    Che is a wise person.

    Reagan was pretty bad in foreign policy as well. We wouldn't have had Sadaam Hussein, the mujhadeen (precursor to AL-Qaeda) led by Osama bin laden without military and monetary assistance provided from the Reagan administration in the 80's. Republicans like to take credit for him ending the Soviet Union.
    reality...where has pure communism succeeded?

    I think Bush II legacy will be primarily from the petro dollar bursting. Those people have nothing but distate for the American govt at it's highest levels now. We and associated euro interests likely invaded Libya to prevent that, why else would we do it there and not anywhere else?
    Ghadafi was highly rumored to soon begin exchanging currency away from US dollars and Euro.

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    Borat on point imo

    1. Just prior to the air strikes, Gaddafi had planned to introduce a new currency, the “Gold Dinar”.
    2. The currency was to be supported by Libya’s massive gold reserves of 144 tonnes.
    3. The gold coin was to be accepted throughout Africa and the Middle East and would have been the only currency accepted for purchases of oil.
    4. This strategy would likely crush both the Dollar and the Euro, making the Dinar the dominant international currency.
    5. The NATO military action is the result of a US-led plan to crush Gaddafi’s currency plans and to protect Western financial interests. The military action is supported by US oil interests, who are seeking to obtain access to Libya’s massive oil reserves.

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    did we lack that access before?

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    Ghadafi had $8 billion of gold in his banks. Yeah, the gold dinar would have been a killer

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    I thought normalizing with Qaddafi was supposed to get our foot in the door wrt oil development. Did that effort fail?

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    Borat on point imo

    1. Just prior to the air strikes, Gaddafi had planned to introduce a new currency, the “Gold Dinar”.
    2. The currency was to be supported by Libya’s massive gold reserves of 144 tonnes.
    3. The gold coin was to be accepted throughout Africa and the Middle East and would have been the only currency accepted for purchases of oil.
    4. This strategy would likely crush both the Dollar and the Euro, making the Dinar the dominant international currency.
    5. The NATO military action is the result of a US-led plan to crush Gaddafi’s currency plans and to protect Western financial interests. The military action is supported by US oil interests, who are seeking to obtain access to Libya’s massive oil reserves.

    The more pressing thing is that the US as a generally technologically advanced nation keeps avoiding non-petroleum energy.

    We've had highly functional electric cars for over 2 decades. Don't believe me? look up Solectria Force, the GM EV-1 or the Toyota Rav4-EV

    Tesla is about to release a sedan with 300 mile range electric. Yet here we are invading other countries in the middle east with oil reserves.

    China will be the biggest economy (via GDP) within the next decade, militarily within 2 decades. They also have the largest lithium ion reserves on the planet, very useful for high capacity batteries.

    We will have deserved that downfall.

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    Damn good question.

    But it makes me wonder why the Republican base hates him so much.
    Because Obama has a "D" after his name and that's all that matters.

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    Che is a wise person.

    Reagan was pretty bad in foreign policy as well.
    Foreign policy during the Reagan years WAS the cold war. As it was pretty much for all of his predecessors post WWII. Judging him/them through post cold war goggles is ridiculous.

    Did FDR suck at foreign policy because he allied himself with Stalin?

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    Because Obama has a "D" after his name and that's all that matters.
    Nevermind, although conservative, I'm probably not "the base".

    Bush....Obama....Romney

    Bush.....Obama....Obama

    No difference.

    If you doubt, follow the money.

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    BTW, the oil/dollars conspiracy does interest me; enough coincidences there to raise eyebrows.....and if it has legs, just another example of Bush = Obama.

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    Nevermind, although conservative, I'm probably not "the base".

    Bush....Obama....Romney

    Bush.....Obama....Obama

    No difference.

    If you doubt, follow the money.
    Yep. November is basically just a contest to see who gets to administer W's 4th term.

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    We've had highly functional electric cars for over 2 decades. Don't believe me? look up Solectria Force, the GM EV-1 or the Toyota Rav4-EV
    I looked up the EV1 - here it is in The American Spectator's, errrrr, I mean Time's list of 50 worst cars EVER:

    http://www.time.com/time/specials/20...658535,00.html

    If you'd like me to keep looking up the others, I will.

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