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    Can Splitter defend the 4, specifically the quick, athletic, 4s?
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    problem isnt splitter, its duncan the pussy

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    Depends on how quick the 4 is. Dirk took him to task but don't know if that was not being mentally prepared to handle Dirk or Tiago being that slow. That plus I would think Tiago would need to improve his outside shot to warrant playing the 4 more often.

    problem isnt splitter, its duncan the pussy
    Seriously?

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    Can Bonner or Blair play the 4?? NO!! Splitter played only 17 mins last night and Pop took him out when he was rolling. If Pop thinks this strategy is going to work in the playoffs, he will have another rude awakening. Give 40mins combined to the turd towers is not a winning strategy. I don't care how many 3's Bonner hits or points that Blair scores.

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    It's pretty simple:

    When Duncan & Splitter play together can -
    a. Duncan score - yes
    b. Splitter score - yes
    c. Parker score - yes

    In another thread, I saw that there were many commenting with the tired line that "Bonner has to play because he spreads the floor" again and again (so what if he grabbed 9 rebounds - Leonard's grabbed more and even Green has come close).

    Most teams give Bonner the 3 to sag and protect the paint. If Bonner is hitting his 3's then it does punish that defense, but teams still concede the 3 because why? They're more vulnerable to Parker or Duncan scoring in the paint.

    Stay with me here - if you add another capable big in the paint with Duncan you only increase the firepower on offense. Even if Bonner is hitting his 3's, his output is still not as potent as Parker being able to drive the lane and have 2 legitimate options to get the ball if his drive is stopped. Duncan and Splitter not having a defender on them (because of the defender's help D on Parker) is much more potent than Duncan or Splitter with a defender on them one on one. This scenario is more fruitful than even optioning out to "the league's best 3 point shooter." Crazy idea, but taking shots within 10' of the rim have a higher precentage of going in.

    Add to that - the Spurs defense is greatly enhanced when Splitter is on the floor with Duncan. I'm sure there are "stats" that might show differently, but logic disagrees - you protect the easy & most efficient points and those are points are the points scored in the paint. Bonner cannot put forth enough effort to be useful in protecting the paint period and end of story.

    It's crazy how that whole twin tower thing worked for the Spurs to get a few rings while the whole Bonner spreads the floor has not - isn't it?

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    Can Splitter defend the 4, specifically the quick, athletic, 4s?
    I bet Splitter is actually quicker than Bonner...

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    he don't have jump shot, would be way better if he had.

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    Defensively, yes. Tiago can guard any 4 out there better than either Blair/Bonner (even the quicker 4s like Dirk, Griffin, Love, etc.)

    The bigger issue is whether him and Duncan can co-exist on the offensive end. I think they can eventually but Pop won't trust it, especially this season.

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    The problem is that statistics show that Tiago, Tim and Blair all show better defensive stats as centers. Right now bonner is the only big man holding pfs(not centers) below the league average per.

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    The problem is that statistics show that Tiago, Tim and Blair all show better defensive stats as centers. Right now bonner is the only big man holding pfs(not centers) below the league average per.
    Well, stats are not to be believed when you don't want to believe them.

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    So how many minutes has Splitter played @ the 4 just curious? Can't be much. Extremely small sample size I'm guessing.

    I'd trust Splitter's defense over Bonner's any day of the week, I don't care what position it is.

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    See what I mean?

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    Did you see Splitter try that bank shot from ten feet on the wing yesterday?

    I felt my windows rattle back in San Antonio.

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    Did you see Splitter try that bank shot from ten feet on the wing yesterday?

    I felt my windows rattle back in San Antonio.
    Can't be any worse than Blair's outside jumper.

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    Another interesting stat is that when tiago has played over 25 minutes a game we have only won one of those games and it was against the grizzlies in our first game.

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    Another interesting stat is that when tiago has played over 25 minutes a game we have only won one of those games and it was against the grizzlies in our first game.
    Interesting how? All it shows is that Blair's ty play in those games led to huge defecits that Pop expected Tiago to dig out of. Remember last year's playoffs? Yah, I do. He played big minutes trying to dig the spurs out of those holes too. And if Pop doesn't pull his head out of his ass soon we'll be once again watching Splitter log 25+ again in futile causes. Deja vu at its best.

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    It's pretty simple:

    When Duncan & Splitter play together can -
    a. Duncan score - yes
    b. Splitter score - yes
    c. Parker score - yes

    In another thread, I saw that there were many commenting with the tired line that "Bonner has to play because he spreads the floor" again and again (so what if he grabbed 9 rebounds - Leonard's grabbed more and even Green has come close).

    Most teams give Bonner the 3 to sag and protect the paint. If Bonner is hitting his 3's then it does punish that defense, but teams still concede the 3 because why? They're more vulnerable to Parker or Duncan scoring in the paint.

    Stay with me here - if you add another capable big in the paint with Duncan you only increase the firepower on offense. Even if Bonner is hitting his 3's, his output is still not as potent as Parker being able to drive the lane and have 2 legitimate options to get the ball if his drive is stopped. Duncan and Splitter not having a defender on them (because of the defender's help D on Parker) is much more potent than Duncan or Splitter with a defender on them one on one. This scenario is more fruitful than even optioning out to "the league's best 3 point shooter." Crazy idea, but taking shots within 10' of the rim have a higher precentage of going in.

    Add to that - the Spurs defense is greatly enhanced when Splitter is on the floor with Duncan. I'm sure there are "stats" that might show differently, but logic disagrees - you protect the easy & most efficient points and those are points are the points scored in the paint. Bonner cannot put forth enough effort to be useful in protecting the paint period and end of story.

    It's crazy how that whole twin tower thing worked for the Spurs to get a few rings while the whole Bonner spreads the floor has not - isn't it?
    Crazy that Tim was in his prime back then, and David was quick and athletic enough to defend guards?

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    I bet Splitter is actually quicker than Bonner...
    , I didn't think you could actually discuss a basketball topic.

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    , I didn't think you could actually discuss a basketball topic.
    see what happens when you think?

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    see what happens when you think?
    Its really not hard tbh. But I guess continously posting "Pop's an Idiot" doesn't take a whole lot of creativity either.

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    Its really not hard tbh. But I guess continously posting "Pop's an Idiot" doesn't take a whole lot of creativity either.
    You want creativity too?

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    It's pretty simple:

    When Duncan & Splitter play together can -
    a. Duncan score - yes
    b. Splitter score - yes
    c. Parker score - yes

    In another thread, I saw that there were many commenting with the tired line that "Bonner has to play because he spreads the floor" again and again (so what if he grabbed 9 rebounds - Leonard's grabbed more and even Green has come close).

    Most teams give Bonner the 3 to sag and protect the paint. If Bonner is hitting his 3's then it does punish that defense, but teams still concede the 3 because why? They're more vulnerable to Parker or Duncan scoring in the paint.

    Stay with me here - if you add another capable big in the paint with Duncan you only increase the firepower on offense. Even if Bonner is hitting his 3's, his output is still not as potent as Parker being able to drive the lane and have 2 legitimate options to get the ball if his drive is stopped. Duncan and Splitter not having a defender on them (because of the defender's help D on Parker) is much more potent than Duncan or Splitter with a defender on them one on one. This scenario is more fruitful than even optioning out to "the league's best 3 point shooter." Crazy idea, but taking shots within 10' of the rim have a higher precentage of going in.

    Add to that - the Spurs defense is greatly enhanced when Splitter is on the floor with Duncan. I'm sure there are "stats" that might show differently, but logic disagrees - you protect the easy & most efficient points and those are points are the points scored in the paint. Bonner cannot put forth enough effort to be useful in protecting the paint period and end of story.

    It's crazy how that whole twin tower thing worked for the Spurs to get a few rings while the whole Bonner spreads the floor has not - isn't it?
    As efficient as 3's are scoring baskets in the paint and drawing fouls is even more efficient. Not only do you score but you increase the risk of getting the opponents star players in foul trouble. That can really change the complexion of a game.

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    he don't have jump shot, would be way better if he had.
    I don't see why he shouldn't be able to take that free throw line jumper if necessary. He's hitting 70% on freethrows. He doesn't have to look for the shot but if it's available he can take it.

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