Should the Lakers Throw in the Towel?

[Pelicans78]

I still think Pau is more important than Kobe. Kobe is just a high volume scorer at this point. Those guys don't really make big impacts offensively. Lakers would be better with Bynum/Gasol/Paul than Bynum/Kobe/Paul.

[Killakobe81]

My point is Killa, that whether or not you want to microscope your bigs, the expectations are crazy and bashing them is silly considering in what most Laker fans would call a bad game, your bigs are combined for 26 points, 20 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 blocks on 50% FG.

And my point is DPG, why does it bother you that some Laker fans are hard on our bigs? You do realize we are a franchise of: Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq. I get that is a high standard. But trust me our bigs are good relative to this era. But Pau makes like 3 less ASGs in the 80's/90's Bynum would still have none.

I dont get why everyone upstairs s on Popovich. YOur own teams fans are gonna have some of the harshest critics and biggest homers. You know me and my style, I'm no homer. I may be a little harsh, but just calling what I see. I dont see a CONTENDER to me a contender is a Conference finals team that has a legit shot at winning it all. I think spurs make WCF but dont see them winning it, tough for me to see the Lakers in the WCF ...

[DPG21920]

But Lebron is Lebron. Not a reliable perimeter game, not a reliable post game. Just a super athletic ball handler. Mavs knew that. Plus, Wade didn't deliver either. Mavs earned that le.

No one is saying the Mavs didn't earn it. They played incredible. I think people are saying that throwing "you were wrong about the Mavs" out there is kind of crazy considering the cir stances.

Doesn't change the fact I was wrong, but it was one of the most incredible le runs the NBA has ever seen IMO.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm interested, what is lakerfans opinion on this?

Doesn't move the mercury, tbh. For either team...

[DPG21920]

And my point is DPG, why does it bother you that some Laker fans are hard on our bigs? You do realize we are a franchise of: Mikan, Wilt, Kareem, Shaq. I get that is a high standard. But trust me our bigs are good relative to this era. But Pau makes like 3 less ASGs in the 80's/90's Bynum would still have none.

I dont get why everyone upstairs s on Popovich. YOur own teams fans are gonna have some of the harshest critics and biggest homers. You know me and my style, I'm no homer. I may be a little harsh, but just calling what I see. I dont see a CONTENDER to me a contender is a Conference finals team that has a legit shot at winning it all. I think spurs make WCF but dont see them winning it, tough for me to see the Lakers in the WCF ...

I get that, I just think it's Laker fans reaction to not having the clear cut favorite team is what I'm saying.

[Pelicans78]

Mavs earned it for sure, but LeBron tripped on his repeatedly and choked like no other. It's one thing to shoot like (6-24) but keep gunning. It's quite another to know you're the best player on the court but refuse to touch the ball in the waning moments of the Finals.

If LeBron wasn't so mentally weak that Finals goes to Miami. I think he's grown a lot since then, though

But hasn't Lebron always been mentally weak? I'd say Kobe's performance in the 2004 Finals was just as bad because he basically shot the Lakers out of a chance to win the championship and he didn't seem to care about it.

[Killakobe81]

Lakers getting ready to lose to the Raptors with horrible aggregate numbers for those deadly big men we have ...

Dont get me wrong give them a better PG they would be better, but we don't have that now ...

[Pelicans78]

DPG was wrong bout me and wrong bout them mavs, anything else is pure revisionist history

[DAF86]

Here's your entire argument, you Nazi chugger: "They have a chance!"--literally, that's your argument in this thread (go back and look).

Thanks for that great revelation, Scotty. Yeah...LeBron could break his ankle or the team plane could go down. There, that's your chance.

off and find another argument other than semantics.

Till then, manu>dirk

To have that chance first they have to win the West, and they're capable of doing that. That's the whole point, you internet name calling badass.

[Killakobe81]

No one is saying the Mavs didn't earn it. They played incredible. I think people are saying that throwing "you were wrong about the Mavs" out there is kind of crazy considering the cir stances.

Doesn't change the fact I was wrong, but it was one of the most incredible le runs the NBA has ever seen IMO.

Gotta stick up for my boy, here.
No one saw what the Mavs were gonna do. Sure they had talent, but many of the previous Mavs teams did too ...plus Lebron and Wade were on the same team in the FINALS. of course, they should of won ...

[Killakobe81]

Season high for opposing PG's in back2back games ...

[Koolaid_Man]

I still think Pau is more important than Kobe. Kobe is just a high volume scorer at this point. Those guys don't really make big impacts offensively. Lakers would be better with Bynum/Gasol/Paul than Bynum/Kobe/Paul.

and Rick Perry still can't remember what 3 government agencies he'd cut so what's your point exactly..

[DPG21920]

Only thing I'll say to mavs>spurs (lol trying to dog me while privately asking me for guidance on life decisions )

You are done for the year, you were wrong about Tyson Chandler staying with the Mavs

You were wrong about the Mavs last year

Saying you needed Gerald Wallace to win a le if you were Dallas

[Pelicans78]

Kobe still shouldn't shoot 7-21 and make it seem routine. He's a part of the problem as well.

[ChrisRichards]

losing against the Raptors with an 18 point lead




Kobe's teammates just raised the white flag since Kobe has no intention of playing winning ball this year.

[DeadlyDynasty]

To have that chance first they have to win the West, and they're capable of doing that.

I said the entire time they were capable of winning the west...what the is wrong with you?

[Killakobe81]

Kobe still shouldn't shoot 7-21 and make it seem routine. He's a part of the problem as well.

I agree he has had some bad nights especially in Philly. But Kobe has been one of teh reason we are above .500 ...

[Killakobe81]

Kobe heard Hornets78 ...3 followed by the steal and the assist ...

[ChrisRichards]

Kobe still shouldn't shoot 7-21 and make it seem routine. He's a part of the problem as well.

Kobe's a huge problem. Kobe is their best playmaker. If this guy would just put his ego on check, take 5 less shots a game and establish a post game the Lakers are easily a +7 win team instead of the mess they are in now.

[Killakobe81]

Pau has been the most important piece to the lakers le runs since joining the team..anyone but blind kobe riders can see this. dude was always efficient as . During 08 and 09 his typical playoff statlines were like 10-12 shooting, 25 points 12 boards 2 blocks. dude was efficient as and could have put up monster numbers if kobe wasn't so selfish.

Tyson Chandler (real one) disagrees
Perkins too

[DAF86]

I said the entire time they were capable of winning the west...what the is wrong with you?

If they win the West they're contenders, you say that's not the case. That's what I'm arguing.

[Koolaid_Man]

Pau has been the most important piece to the lakers le runs since joining the team..anyone but blind kobe riders can see this. dude was always efficient as . During 08 and 09 his typical playoff statlines were like 10-12 shooting, 25 points 12 boards 2 blocks. dude was efficient as and could have put up monster numbers if kobe wasn't so selfish.

Tyson - I love me some you another man will never do

[Killakobe81]

LOL Jose Calderon, who I agree DPG could help us but his contract sucks and his defense does too ...

30 points!!!! potential game winner ...

[Pelicans78]

I agree he has had some bad nights especially in Philly. But Kobe has been one of teh reason we are above .500 ...

But he hasn't been any more important than Gasol or Bynum. They've pretty much been equally responsible for the Lakers success or lack of success at times.

[Pelicans78]

M>S speaking the truth.