Who is the most disliked Spur?

[Agloco]

Interesting that Neal has zero votes tbh, I mean with all the talkers about his past and all.

[Wild Cobra Kai]

Blair was never "beasting inside". His stats the first few games were decent because he got easy layups off Manu's penetration. He never succeeds when he has to go one-on-one. Take Manu out of the equation and Blair turns into one of the biggest scrubs in the NBA. You're a bonafied scrub if you have to rely on a teammate to make you "decent".

All bigs rely on smalls or wings to get them the ball in the right spot, and hit shots to space the floor for them. Xs and Os fail.

[ffadicted]

Matt Bonner is ing awful, but god bless his heart.
Can't say the same about Jefferson, guy just doesn't give a

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

As a Cowboys fan......I agree, Richard Jefferson is the Spurs' version of Roy Williams. Highly expensive underachiever.

[Spurs and Mavs fan]

Blair was never "beasting inside". His stats the first few games were decent because he got easy layups off Manu's penetration. He never succeeds when he has to go one-on-one. Take Manu out of the equation and Blair turns into one of the biggest scrubs in the NBA. You're a bonafied scrub if you have to rely on a teammate to make you "decent".

Eyestalker, how does someone end up being a Giants and Spurs fan?

[HarlemHeat37]

For me, from most disliked to least..

1. Richard Jefferson
2. Dejuan Blair
3. Danny Green
4. James Anderson
5. Gary Neal

[Brutalis]

Jefferson because we overpay him to not live up to his potential.

[Dex]

Whoever voted for Duncan needs to GTFO.

[BanditHiro]

Whoever voted for Duncan needs to GTFO.

i'm tired of him being a tired old bag...na i voted RJ

he is a starter that contributes nothing.

[Sean Cagney]

Whoever voted for Duncan needs to GTFO.

Some idiot troll! Thats all it could be, they need to leave the forum though immediately I agree! PERIOD.

[vander]

that POS Bonner never wins games for us in the playoffs.
for the obscene 3.5 million he gets, he should be ing carrying this team: shooting 65% from the field, creating shots for other players, shutting down the opponent's best player, and hauling in at least 10 rebounds per game

[spursfan1000]

Easily Richard Jefferson, I wish they would have really gotten rid of him last off season like they were planning to!

[underdawg]

that POS Bonner never wins games for us in the playoffs.
for the obscene 3.5 million he gets, he should be ing carrying this team: shooting 65% from the field, creating shots for other players, shutting down the opponent's best player, and hauling in at least 10 rebounds per game

or maybe just show up for the playoffs instead of shriveling up like a little girl

[vander]

or maybe just show up for the playoffs instead of shriveling up like a little girl

role players not showing up in the playoffs can be overcome, the "Big 3" not showing up in the playoffs can not be overcome, in the last 3 years, only TP has carried his weight in the playoffs, once or twice

but go ahead, keep thinking it's all Bonner's fault that the Big 3 are (way) over the hill an can't take this team anywhere anymore

[underdawg]

role players not showing up in the playoffs can be overcome, the "Big 3" not showing up in the playoffs can not be overcome, in the last 3 years, only TP has carried his weight in the playoffs, once or twice

but go ahead, keep thinking it's all Bonner's fault that the Big 3 are (way) over the hill an can't take this team anywhere anymore

It's not all Bonner's fault of course, but if a player is getting 20 mpg during the season and in the playoffs, you'd hope said player would at least play to level that he did during the regular season and maybe even better because it's the stinking playoffs.

You might not like the criticism of Bonner because you think it's unfair, but your denial of his playoff woes and how they impacted the losses is also unfair. Bonner's performance on a Spurs team during the Big 3's prime - no big deal. Bonner's on a Spurs team with a dwindling potency of the Big 3 in the playoffs = kind of important (as is the performance of all the role players).

I've said it before - Bonner won't cost you the championship, but he's not going to help you win it either. There are actually role players that have had a major hand in helping win a championship - Spurs have had several on their way to 4 championships. They really need them now more than then.

[vander]

It's not all Bonner's fault of course, but if a player is getting 20 mpg during the season and in the playoffs, you'd hope said player would at least play to level that he did during the regular season and maybe even better because it's the stinking playoffs.

You might not like the criticism of Bonner because you think it's unfair, but your denial of his playoff woes and how they impacted the losses is also unfair. Bonner's performance on a Spurs team during the Big 3's prime - no big deal. Bonner's on a Spurs team with a dwindling potency of the Big 3 in the playoffs = kind of important (as is the performance of all the role players).

I've said it before - Bonner won't cost you the championship, but he's not going to help you win it either. There are actually role players that have had a major hand in helping win a championship - Spurs have had several on their way to 4 championships. They really need them now more than then.

IMO if Bonner was playing with one or two actual NBA stars, who could draw double teams, he would be much better in the playoffs. but playoff defenses can pretty much D-up the spurs man to man and make the "big 3" try to win it, which they can't, which means Bonner doesn't get open threes anymore, but gets the ball in pressure situations after one of the big 3 failed to create an easy shot for anyone.

role players "step up" much more often when they play with real stars, who take all the heat and focus and responsibility and pressure.

[Darkwaters]

Interesting that Neal has zero votes tbh, I mean with all the talkers about his past and all.

When Jefferson, Bonner and Blair are still on the board it's hard to justify Gary Neal as your vote.

[underdawg]

IMO if Bonner was playing with one or two actual NBA stars, who could draw double teams, he would be much better in the playoffs. but playoff defenses can pretty much D-up the spurs man to man and make the "big 3" try to win it, which they can't, which means Bonner doesn't get open threes anymore, but gets the ball in pressure situations after one of the big 3 failed to create an easy shot for anyone.

role players "step up" much more often when they play with real stars, who take all the heat and focus and responsibility and pressure.

that's why Pop needs to give most of those 20 mpg that Bonner gets to a player that doesn't need open 3's to be effective.

[BanditHiro]

Interesting that Neal has zero votes tbh, I mean with all the talkers about his past and all.

he didn't rapePERIOD.

[vander]

that's why Pop needs to give most of those 20 mpg that Bonner gets to a player that doesn't need open 3's to be effective.

wouldn't make any real difference, maybe a couple extra points, but the team still isn't sniffing a championship with whatever you'd rather spend that 3.5 million on, because that's not the real problem.

[underdawg]

wouldn't make any real difference, maybe a couple extra points, but the team still isn't sniffing a championship with whatever you'd rather spend that 3.5 million on, because that's not the real problem.

would you say that about Bowen in '07 when he made 3.7 million? How much does Jeremy Lin make? $762K - yep, that's extremely rare but never say never.

I know it's only 3.5 million, but Bonner's still the 6th highest paid player on the Spurs (very close to #5 Tiago too) - a team that has most of it's money locked up in 4 players. Every player outside of those 4 has to be maximized to their potential for the Spurs to be compe ive in the playoffs.

Duncan was bad in the playoffs last year, but it wasn't like Manu and Tony were completely awful (almost 40 pts per game combined). The Spurs still averaged 94 points against Memphis (avg'd 97.5), but after Hill the scoring had a huge drop off going from 11.7 pts for Hill to 7.7 for Neal. Jefferson, Bonner and McDyess all averaged over 20 mpg and none scored more than 7pts per game. I give McDyess a pass for his purpose as a defensive player but RJ and Bonner definitely could have been better.

The Big 3 are old and I get that, but they still make the Spurs very compe ive for a le this year. That's based solely on the Spurs getting maximum effort from its role players. Tiago and Leonard should provide the help they needed last year and maybe even TJ and Green too. Bonner could be effective if used in small spurts for situations that call for a 3 pt shot. Using him for more than 10 mpg in the playoffs will not help the Spurs and I know this because it's been proven to be true.

[therealtruth]

would you say that about Bowen in '07 when he made 3.7 million? How much does Jeremy Lin make? $762K - yep, that's extremely rare but never say never.

I know it's only 3.5 million, but Bonner's still the 6th highest paid player on the Spurs (very close to #5 Tiago too) - a team that has most of it's money locked up in 4 players. Every player outside of those 4 has to be maximized to their potential for the Spurs to be compe ive in the playoffs.

Duncan was bad in the playoffs last year, but it wasn't like Manu and Tony were completely awful (almost 40 pts per game combined). The Spurs still averaged 94 points against Memphis (avg'd 97.5), but after Hill the scoring had a huge drop off going from 11.7 pts for Hill to 7.7 for Neal. Jefferson, Bonner and McDyess all averaged over 20 mpg and none scored more than 7pts per game. I give McDyess a pass for his purpose as a defensive player but RJ and Bonner definitely could have been better.

The Big 3 are old and I get that, but they still make the Spurs very compe ive for a le this year. That's based solely on the Spurs getting maximum effort from its role players. Tiago and Leonard should provide the help they needed last year and maybe even TJ and Green too. Bonner could be effective if used in small spurts for situations that call for a 3 pt shot. Using him for more than 10 mpg in the playoffs will not help the Spurs and I know this because it's been proven to be true.

What killed the Spurs in game 6 was when Dice reinjured his neck and Pop played Bonner in his place. I think those extra minutes Bonner got really hurt the Spurs. By the time Dice came back in Randolph was unstoppable. That's the problem of favoring a one dimensional offensive player that had no business guarding Randolph.

[therealtruth]

IMO if Bonner was playing with one or two actual NBA stars, who could draw double teams, he would be much better in the playoffs. but playoff defenses can pretty much D-up the spurs man to man and make the "big 3" try to win it, which they can't, which means Bonner doesn't get open threes anymore, but gets the ball in pressure situations after one of the big 3 failed to create an easy shot for anyone.

role players "step up" much more often when they play with real stars, who take all the heat and focus and responsibility and pressure.

Very true. In the playoffs matchups are everything. You need to win your matchups to have a chance. Basically your stars need to be able to draw double teams and kick out to the open shooter or score themselves consistently. That's what Duncan used to do when we were winning. When he lost his ability to draw the double teams it basically made players like Bonner less useful in playoff situations. Bonner gets most of his 3's thru drive and kick penetration which can be nullified by young and energetic defenders as the Grizzlies showed.

[therealtruth]

It's not all Bonner's fault of course, but if a player is getting 20 mpg during the season and in the playoffs, you'd hope said player would at least play to level that he did during the regular season and maybe even better because it's the stinking playoffs.

You might not like the criticism of Bonner because you think it's unfair, but your denial of his playoff woes and how they impacted the losses is also unfair. Bonner's performance on a Spurs team during the Big 3's prime - no big deal. Bonner's on a Spurs team with a dwindling potency of the Big 3 in the playoffs = kind of important (as is the performance of all the role players).

I've said it before - Bonner won't cost you the championship, but he's not going to help you win it either. There are actually role players that have had a major hand in helping win a championship - Spurs have had several on their way to 4 championships. They really need them now more than then.

You can't survive in the playoffs with Bonner soaking 20+ mpg. JVG said it best last year. The Spurs need better talent. The last playoff series the Spurs won Bonner probably played his least mpg in a playoff series.

[$pursDynasty]

First off let me say I love every Spur though I do curse them when they screw up in a game. I love it when they all do well but at least on this board it seems if Splitter walks up and down the court w/o tripping he is the best thing since Wilt Chamberlain, wait I mean Bill Russell because if we give Splitter enough minutes we are ensured of 6 more rings. I like what I am seeing from Splitter and only want him to continue to improve, I get the everyone loves the backup QB thing BUT thinking your backup QB is better than Montana and Brady seems a little ridiculous.