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  1. #101
    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    Why is Robertson over Kobe?
    walking triple double tbh

  2. #102
    Got Woke? DMC's Avatar
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    How is Duncan locked in, but Kobe isn't
    Duncan didn't rape tbh

  3. #103
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    You live in a cave?
    Kobe's made top 10 a while ago
    I'll be serious with you for a moment and say that I personally believe top ten lists are essentially a useless exercise. It's impossible to quantify one player being better than another when there's an infinite number of factors that can affect how a player's "greatness" is perceived. Ralph Sampson doesn't get injured and Hakeem Olajuwon is possibly the GOAT. Seattle doesn't trade away Scottie Pippen to the Bulls, Jordan could very well be ringless.

    That said, I would say Jordan and Kareem are the two greatest players of all-time. Shaq, Kobe, Duncan, Bird, Magic, Hakeem, Russell, and Wilt round out the top ten in no particular order, as I believe building around any of these players with the right pieces gives you a good chance at the le, but I would lean toward the bigs (Shaq, Duncan, Dream, Wilt, and to an extent, Russell) since it's much easier to build around big men than it is guards.

  4. #104
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    How is Duncan locked in, but Kobe isn't
    Duncan is the best PF of all time and better than Kobe.

  5. #105
    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    Oscar
    1 ring
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    10 allnba team (8 1st)
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    Kobe
    5 rings
    2 finals mvps
    1 mvp
    13 allnba teams (9 1st) - gonna be 14 teams, 10 1st teams
    14 allstar teams

  6. #106
    Dryer than Kunta's ankles Ashy Larry's Avatar
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    Why is Robertson over Kobe?

    Could be because of the triple double season and coming close in a couple more years. I couldn't put him over Bryant because Bean won two as the number one option. Big O won one as Robin with Cap for the Bucks. But he was a bad man.

    Mine would go:

    Jordan or Jabbar
    Jordan or Jabbar
    Johnson
    Russell
    Chamberlain
    O'Neal
    Duncan
    Bryant
    Bird
    Olajuwon
    Robertson

  7. #107
    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    Duncan is the best PF of all time and better than Kobe.
    how is he better?
    and look at the compe ion for their position
    kobe has MJ, Duncan had who? lol

    and if you use PER, then Kobe is better than Larry Bird and equal to Magic
    If you use winshares then Drexler was the man in '95, Kobe was the man in '01, Manu was the man in '05
    point is, don't use formulas no one cares about

  8. #108
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    What are you talking about, what formulas? Most everyone, even Laker fans, have Kobe behind Duncan and Duncan in the top 10 without argument. That's not a formula, it's common knowledge.

  9. #109
    PETA sucks! Spur_Fanatic's Avatar
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    Good game by the Raptors.

    A little luck (and less ref help for the other team) and they could have won it.

  10. #110
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    (and less ref help for the other team)
    Only pussies & assholes lodge the officiating card.

  11. #111
    PETA sucks! Spur_Fanatic's Avatar
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    Only pussies & assholes lodge the officiating card.
    Don't forget about the Stern card.

    Lakers fans love that card.

  12. #112
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    how is he better?
    and look at the compe ion for their position
    kobe has MJ, Duncan had who? lol

    and if you use PER, then Kobe is better than Larry Bird and equal to Magic
    If you use winshares then Drexler was the man in '95, Kobe was the man in '01, Manu was the man in '05
    point is, don't use formulas no one cares about
    And who does Kobe have after MJ?

    A 6' 2" Jerry West, who would probably be more of a Steve Nash kind of player in today's game? Wade, whose career is nowhere near close to being over. Drexler and George Gervin played as much or more small forward as they did SG. The SG guard position is very thin historically while the PF position has been stacked. Malone, Barkley, McHale, Pet , Moses Malone, and modern greats at the position like Dirk and Garnett.

    And with regard to your last comment, you realize there's always outliers in any statistical measurement, don't you? Citing those doesn't undermine the legitimacy of the stat whatsoever. I know Kobe fan worships per game stats, so if we went by those, Allen Iverson and Jerry West would be considered better scores than Kobe. And now since Kobe is climbing up the all-time overall points leaderboard, they've put placed that stat on their altar, so naturally, John Stockton and Mark Jackson should be considered better playmakers than Magic.

  13. #113
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    What are you talking about, what formulas? Most everyone, even Laker fans, have Kobe behind Duncan and Duncan in the top 10 without argument. That's not a formula, it's common knowledge.
    Are you sure about that?

    Lakersgrounds probably has that boy second of all-time right now.

  14. #114
    5-5 Deuce Bigalow's Avatar
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    What are you talking about, what formulas? Most everyone, even Laker fans, have Kobe behind Duncan and Duncan in the top 10 without argument. That's not a formula, it's common knowledge.
    They're lakers fans that don't even like Kobe, there is so many of them
    some even think he's the GOAT, does that make it true?

  15. #115
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Ok, what about non-Laker fans that share that consensus?

  16. #116
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Was this before OR after he came back beggin' for his job?

    tee, hee.
    It was before you begged the EC to take it easy on Kool.

  17. #117
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    It was before you begged the EC to take it easy on Kool.
    Please.

  18. #118
    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    Kobe took nine shots in seven minutes in the 4th quarter. He's too good a shooter not to hit one or two, even against three and four defenders. It's funny that if he hits one of those nine, ESPN will show it, win or lose.

  19. #119
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Kobe took nine shots in seven minutes in the 4th quarter. He's too good a shooter not to hit one or two, even against three and four defenders. It's funny that if he hits one of those nine, ESPN will show it, win or lose.
    Wrecked yer Sunday, eh?

    tee, hee.

  20. #120
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Almost as bad as when I wrecked your weekend by exposing your lying ass.

    exposed
    afraid to respond

  21. #121
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Almost as bad as when I wrecked your weekend by exposing your lying ass.

    exposed
    afraid to respond
    Please.

  22. #122
    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    too afraid

  23. #123
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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  24. #124
    The Dude minds DPG21920's Avatar
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    Red, you know what Giuseppe hates more than anything? When people ignore him and don't get into the back and forth with him. It ruins everything.

  25. #125
    O & 44!!! Now, go back &
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    Red, you know what Giuseppe hates more than anything? When people ignore him and don't get into the back and forth with him. It ruins everything.
    lmcontrollinao!!!

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