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VRWC is more than the Repugs. VRWC is unbeatable, but they might be slowed ever so slightly.
As the bat nasty Repug governors and state legislatures are showing, they can implement WRWC/ALEC dictates without controlling WH or Congress.
There's also the issue of redundancy. To whatever extent voter fraud provably exists, we have the enforcement of existing election laws to thank.
The system already works: why fix something that ain't broke?
VRWC is more than the Repugs. VRWC is unbeatable, but they might be slowed ever so slightly.
As the bat nasty Repug governors and state legislatures are showing, they can implement WRWC/ALEC dictates without controlling WH or Congress.
are you sure Dems don't carry laws penned by ALEC?
...by voting for Dems.
(btw, your blue colored underpants are showing.)
Your position is based on the claim that there is no fraud. How do you prove/disprove fraud if there is no ID and no accountability? I don't think either one of us has FACTS to back up the existence or non-existence of voter fraud.
Nope. I just said existing law has got it covered.
If you think existing law is inadequate, that's on you. I can't prove a problem doesn't exist, but you can show that one does. You haven't done that.
Texas already has a voter ID law as EXISTING LAW. If you think it should be changed that's on you to show.
Equities. Purports to solve an overhyped problem at the expense of eligible voters.
Plus, is not existing law everywhere yet.
Well, most of us vote in Texas.
So?
There's a broader debate to take part in. Texas ain't the whole story.
The only problem that law solves is that some groups tend to vote for Democrats, because it is, for the Republican super-majority in the Texas Legislature, a problem.Texas already has a voter ID law as EXISTING LAW. If you think it should be changed that's on you to show.
Voter fraud is not a problem of a scale large enough to warrant disenfranchising the disadvantaged.
Since the costs so obviously outweigh the benefits to society as a whole, I can only conclude the real reason is to reduce the number of people who vote for Democrats. As a Republican rank and file, that should worry *you*.
If you can find a group of statewide elections where such fraud has had a material effect, I might reconsider that. I will accede that some instances of fraud have affected some narrow local elections. That is inevitable in a large country.
Bingo.
Just for emphasis.
I disagree. The systems would allow for free ID cards for those who are low income.
Look... I'm all for using the purple ink. How about you. Is that a good alternative?
Many elderly lack the prerequisite birth certificate, simply by virtue of being born before such records were widely kept.So it's ALL about a PHOTO ID?
REALLY?
You must really think these people are sub-humanly stupid if they are legitimate citizens with legitimate identifications and can't get a photo ID before the next election.
For people on tight incomes, it can be hard to get time off, and be able to afford the hassle if you don't have one.
It is a bigger barrier than you think for a lot of people.
Now if you are Larry Finkelstein, we can understand why you don't want to have valid ID.
A true 99%'r:
Translation:
"I don't have any evidence of widespread voter fraud, so here is a funny picture."
Meh.
Then change the laws also and allow for ID's based on verifiable residency over the long term. Just stop making excuses for not having the requirement. Instead, become part of the solution.
You never read me well, do you.
That was the only picture I could find of the character in the show Dharma and Greg. Ever see it?
Dharma & Greg is an American television sitcom that aired from September 24, 1997, to April 30, 2002.
It stars Jenna Elfman and Thomas Gibson as Dharma and Greg Montgomery, a couple who married instantly on their first date despite being complete opposites. The series was co-produced by Chuck Lorre Productions, More-Medavoy Productions and 4 to 6 Foot Productions in association with 20th Century Fox Television for ABC. The show's theme song was written and performed by composer Dennis C. Brown.This fails to mention his constant fear of "being on the grid."Cast
Jenna Elfman as Dharma Freedom Montgomery, née Finkelstein, Greg's wife and a flower child. She is overly cheerful and sensitive, but she is also more compassionate and forgiving than most people. Despite her trust in the goodness of people and persistent good intentions, Dharma is not naive. She understands the real world, employs sarcasm and receives it well. Dharma perseveres in expressing her personality and her iden y even in the face of an overwhelmingly opposing world. Dharma encourages Greg to seek happiness rather than fret about practical issues like money. She is named after the concept of dharma in Indian philosophy. Once, a Native American friend of her father's gave her the name "Crazy Man's Daughter".
According to Chuck Lorre's eleventh vanity card (see below), he and Dottie Dartland originally conceived Dharma & Greg as "a series revolving around a woman whose personality is not a neurotic product of societal and parental conditioning, but of her own free-flowing, compassionate mind".
Thomas Gibson as lawyer Gregory Clifford "Greg" Montgomery, Dharma's husband. He is an upright, uptight, decent, though sometimes surprisingly open-minded man. Greg's life was hopelessly banal before he met Dharma and married her on their first date. Since then, he has played straight man to the antics of his eccentric wife. Though his relationship with Dharma has been rocky at times, Greg has never been shown to regret their marriage. He is an alumnus of elite schools, Phillips Exeter Academy, Harvard University, and Stanford Law School.
Susan Sullivan as Katherine "Kitty" Montgomery, Greg's extravagant mother. In the beginning of the first season Kitty was generally represented as a manipulative, controlling woman who only had higher aspirations for her son. As an elite socialite, Kitty was initially quite displeased to have Dharma and her parents join the family, but over the course of the series, Kitty broadens her limited country club world to become part of a larger family, becoming a major part of Dharma's life, while remaining lovingly manipulative.
Mitc Ryan as Edward Montgomery, Greg's eccentric father. His philosophy for dealing with his wife, Kitty, involves remaining as uninvolved as possible. Head of Montgomery Industries (though he keeps working only because he can see little tugboats out the window) and at odds with Dharma's father, who calls him "Ed" and whom he calls "Finkelstein." Edward is a graduate of the University of Notre Dame, of which he is fiercely proud, and partially resents Greg for considering Notre Dame to not be "good enough" for him. Ed is often seen drinking martinis and Scotch.
Mimi Kennedy as Abigail Kathleen "Abby" O'Neil, Dharma's free-spirited, caring mother, who encourages her daughter and son-in-law to produce children: "Feel free to have sex anywhere." Although they have a grown daughter and later a son, she and Dharma's father are not married. She and Larry were engaged and held the wedding ceremony but still did not marry to "stay under the radar". Unlike her "lifemate" Larry, she immediately accepted Greg, though she still constantly annoys and conflicts with his parents. She is a militant vegan, which is a never-ending source of trouble. During her pregnancy in season 4, however, she did make exceptions because of her food cravings. It was mentioned in Invasion of the Buddy Snatcher that she has a degree in ornithological psychology from Berkeley.
Alan Rachins as Myron Lawrence "Larry" Finkelstein, Dharma's "hippie" father. He is a stereotypical sixties radical who frequently rants about various conspiracies, a lot of which revolve around Richard Nixon. He also thinks he's wanted by the FBI, but when Greg discovers he's not, his family goes to great lengths to prove to him that he still is because this is a source of great pride to him. Despite this, he manages to get along with Edward, often when both are sick of dealing with their wives. He homeschooled Dharma in American history, passing on his conspiracy theories, such as the latest Apollo mission secretly burying the missing minutes of the Watergate tapes on the moon. It is often alluded to that Larry is a chronic user of marijunana, though never shown. In the season 4 episode Mother Daughter Reunion, Dharma mentions that Larry has a resistance against most drugs after frequent use. In the pilot episode Abby introduces his usual cluelessness with "he blew out his short term memory back in 1972". He sometimes becomes a "pothead savant" and reveals skills such as his talent for carpentry and his music.
solution to what? statistically trivial voter fraud?
Non existent mass voter fraud puts our democracy at risk
I can't believe you are that gullible.
If they are elderly they are drawing social security. To get a social security number they had to have ID. As for you claim of employees not having time to get off and get an ID, legally they are required to have an ID (run through e-verify) to have a job.
Solution to getting ID for citizens so the fraud will not be possible to the lengths it is now.
There is fraud right now. So much cir stantial evidence of it. There just isn't the resources to check a system that has such lax requirements.
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