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    Whenever posters claim the media is hiding the ball at the behest of their putative political masters, the claim is almost always dispelled by posters who have been paying attention to the news, or who do a quick google search.


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    Whenever posters claim the media is hiding the ball at the behest of their putative political masters, the claim is almost always dispelled by posters who have been paying attention to the news, or who do a quick google search.
    I think the only people claiming the media is hiding the ball is WC and Darrin......my point is, I don't think (and I consider myself pretty well informed), that the media has made a very big issue of the prices this time around.

    Yes, there have been stories, but remember 08-09? It was on the front of every website, newspaper, and TV show for months at a time.

    I suppose the $4.00 barrier had been broken and thus making it bigger news than it is right now, but the lead up and the inevitable result, to me, should make it as popular a story as it was then.

    Also, pretty sure I just answered my own question.

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    And your point is?

    I'm not a mind reader, and in no way does the coverage compiled in your youtube refute what anyone else has said in this thread. Gas prices still get plenty of run in the media.

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    I think the only people claiming the media is hiding the ball is WC and Darrin......my point is, I don't think (and I consider myself pretty well informed), that the media has made a very big issue of the prices this time around.

    Yes, there have been stories, but remember 08-09? It was on the front of every website, newspaper, and TV show for months at a time.

    I suppose the $4.00 barrier had been broken and thus making it bigger news than it is right now, but the lead up and the inevitable result, to me, should make it as popular a story as it was then.

    Also, pretty sure I just answered my own question.
    And that' because back then the price of gas broke the $2, $3 AND $4 dollar/gallon price levels, setting new historic highs.


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    i'm paying around $4.10 a gallon.

    how bout you guys?

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    $3.65 for 93 here...

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    93?

    Richer.

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    93 octane? where you at?

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    where the do you get 93 octane?

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    $3.65 for 93 here...


    $3.37 for 89...or is it 87? I cant remember.

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    Paid $3.40 for 87 this morning.

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    Around $3.40/gal for regular. The cheapest in Austin right now is $3.29.

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    93 octane? where you at?
    New Jersey

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    i need more octane.

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    Costco and most gas stations (Exxon, etc) sell 93 octane here (besides 89 and 87).

    Wawa sells 92 as their premium.

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    They use quite a bit of Ethanol though...

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    i can only find 91.

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    High octane is a waste of money

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    no it isn't.

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    http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/c...view/index.htm


    Many people use premium gasoline in the belief that it's better for engines than regular. That can be a costly mistake, especially during times of high fuel prices. Octane grades don't represent a "good, better, best" choice; they simply measure the resistance of fuel to knocking or pinging, a condition in which gasoline burns uncontrollably in the engine's combustion chambers. Knocking and pinging can damage an engine.

    While high-octane formulations resist knocking better than lower octanes, most engines are designed to take regular gas, which has an octane rating of about 87. Engines requiring premium gas are typically the more powerful ones found in sports and luxury vehicles. Those engines use a very high compression ratio, making them more vulnerable to knocking, so recommended fuels have octane ratings of 91 or higher. Using premium gas in an engine designed to run on regular doesn't improve performance.

    Some engines for which premium gasoline is recommended can run on regular without problems. That's because the engine's knock-sensor system detects the presence of uncontrolled burning in the chambers. When it does, the engine's computer-control system re s engine timing, eliminating the knock but slightly reducing power. If you don't mind giving up some performance, you can run these engines on less-expensive regular gasoline. To check whether your engine is capable of running on regular gas, read your owner's manual or ask your dealership's service department.

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    thats why its not a waste of money.

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    High octane is a waste of money
    Not necessarily. Premium burns cleaner, doesn't foul plugs, injectors, etc. I chipped my truck and have to run premium (unless I detune it) but when I keep my foot out of it the mileage increase with premium was almost enough to pay for the difference per gallon.

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    Engines requiring premium gas are typically the more powerful ones found in sports and luxury vehicles. Those engines use a very high compression ratio, making them more vulnerable to knocking, so recommended fuels have octane ratings of 91 or higher.
    I have a luxury vehicle that requires premium gas (or you get the pinging and knocking).

    That said, it has actually saved me money from my old V8 Jeep that used regular fuel.

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    I have a luxury vehicle that requires premium gas (or you get the pinging and knocking).

    That said, it has actually saved me money from my old V8 Jeep that used regular fuel.

    No knock-sensor in your luxury vehicle?

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    No knock-sensor in your luxury vehicle?
    The difference between premium and regular is a lot more than just octane...it's also in the tail of additives. I don't care what consumer reports says, running premium is better for your plugs, injectors, carbon build up on pistons, etc. The worst thing you can do with a modern engine is run crap off brand regular gas...the pennies a gallon you may save will be more than spent on maintenance issues.

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