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    Interesting hypothesis put forward by Andrew McNeill that I hadn't considered before.

    Is the reason Tiago doesn't get a large amount of playing time because he has a history of nagging injuries and the Spurs rely on him to the extent that they cannot afford to lose him to any injury?

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    mmmm.........................



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    Is the goal to win a championship or field a healthy team that will flame out in the 2nd round again?

    Roll the dice Pop!!

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    The injury hypothesis. That argument seems to imply that Pop is saving Tiago, which doesn't seem to be the case. If anything, he should be saving Tim even more for the playoffs considering how he wears down by the playoffs, and therefore playing Tiago more while he's on a roll. That's not happening, and it seems a stretch to think Tiago's role will all of a sudden improve in the playoff...until Pop goes into "panic mode".

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    The injury hypothesis. That argument seems to imply that Pop is saving Tiago, which doesn't seem to be the case. If anything, he should be saving Tim even more for the playoffs considering how he wears down by the playoffs, and therefore playing Tiago more while he's on a roll. That's not happening, and it seems a stretch to think Tiago's role will all of a sudden improve in the playoff...until Pop goes into "panic mode".
    Good point. How incredibly dumb is it to severely limit Splitter's role and PT because of a worry over whether he might suffer a "nagging injury"? If anything, the way his minutes have been on a yo-yo dating back to last year it's highly more likely he'll get hurt.

    Oh, and meanwhile all this does is burn 36 year old Tim Duncan into the ground. For good measure.


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    Do these guys at 48 minutes of get paid to kiss Popovich's ass or something?

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    Good point. How incredibly dumb is it to severely limit Splitter's role and PT because of a worry over whether he might suffer a "nagging injury"? If anything, the way his minutes have been on a yo-yo dating back to last year it's highly more likely he'll get hurt.

    Oh, and meanwhile all this does is burn 36 year old Tim Duncan into the ground. For good measure.

    lol career low

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    "48 MOH: Splitter not getting big minutes because he's injury-prone"

    Geez, if that's the case, how many minutes should Manu be getting???

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    Do these guys at 48 minutes of get paid to kiss Popovich's ass or something?
    Do you ever actually look up stats regarding the Spurs? I know you enjoy talking outta of your ass, but, come on, let google be your friend.

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    "48 MOH: Splitter not getting big minutes because he's injury-prone"

    Geez, if that's the case, how many minutes should Manu be getting???
    About 30 mpg. Less if the Spurs can get away with it.

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    Didn't read. LOL.

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    Do you ever actually look up stats regarding the Spurs? I know you enjoy talking outta of your ass, but, come on, let google be your friend.
    schtickk, you should apply for a writing job at 48MOH, once they see your resume here at spurstalk you'll be a shoe-in.


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    I'm not buying this argument. If was an injury issue, Manu should be playing like 10mins a game . Secondly, if Pop is saving him for the playoffs, wouldn't it make more sense to develop chemistry between TD and Splitter during the reg season and not in the midst of a tough playoff series. Unfortunately, I don't see Splitter's mins increasing significantly in the playoffs unless we are getting brutalized down low but by then, we will probably be down a couple of games in the series. What's the real reason.. who knows.

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    I'm not buying this argument. If was an injury issue, Manu should be playing like 10mins a game . Secondly, if Pop is saving him for the playoffs, wouldn't it make more sense to develop chemistry between TD and Splitter during the reg season and not in the midst of a tough playoff series. Unfortunately, I don't see Splitter's mins increasing significantly in the playoffs unless we are getting brutalized down low but by then, we will probably be down a couple of games in the series. What's the real reason.. who knows.
    Pop's plan is to resume his development of the TD/Splitter chemistry once the playoffs begin, picking up where he left off in last year's playoffs.


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    schtickk, you should apply for a writing job at 48MOH, once they see your resume here at spurstalk you'll be a shoe-in.

    I'm actually considering writing a how to manuel on the dos and don'ts in posting on a sports forum and actually was wondering if i could use you to write a forward in my don't section.

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    Given that the Tim/Tiago combo performs pretty badly at this point in a small sample size, what do its advocates see improving in it over time?

    Just curious. Is it just a matter of Duncan's parking himself on the perimeter and Nealing with it?

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    Just curious. Is it just a matter of Duncan's parking himself on the perimeter and Nealing with it?
    This wouldn't be any good seeing that Duncan is still better in the post than Splitter.

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    Well Chump, on the flip side of that, in the small sample size last year with Tim/Tiago it worked quite well. That's what makes it confusing. But with the level of skill and decision making they both possess it should be able to work. Tim would have to play a little further out (which he's shown he can do decently well), but not exclusively. There are on paper issues with the pairing but no more than Tim/Blair and the upside is obviously significantly better. The issue is we have seen the need in the playoffs to have the ability to play Tim/Tiago together and right now it's a mixed bag on what we have with that line up both on the court and what it does to the bench.

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    Well Chump, on the flip side of that, in the small sample size last year with Tim/Tiago it worked quite well. That's what makes it confusing. But with the level of skill and decision making they both possess it should be able to work. Tim would have to play a little further out (which he's shown he can do decently well), but not exclusively. There are on paper issues with the pairing but no more than Tim/Blair and the upside is obviously significantly better. The issue is we have seen the need in the playoffs to have the ability to play Tim/Tiago together and right now it's a mixed bag on what we have with that line up both on the court and what it does to the bench.
    Do we have the advanced stats on the combos from the last playoffs.

    I don't remember seeing them.

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    This wouldn't be any good seeing that Duncan is still better in the post than Splitter.
    That's arguable. Also, even if you want to say Tims better there that doesn't make Tiago bad there by default. Tim is solid outside and Tiago is damn good inside. Plus, that's one side of the argument. I feel the need due to defense, not offense.

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    Given that the Tim/Tiago combo performs pretty badly at this point in a small sample size, what do its advocates see improving in it over time?

    Just curious. Is it just a matter of Duncan's parking himself on the perimeter and Nealing with it?
    A torch of sorts needs to be passed from Duncan to Splitter. Given the effectiveness of the Splitter/TP P&R pairing, this would become the main staple of the offense, with the rest of the guys feeding off open looks generated from it. The Dejuan Blair experiment should be mercifully ended. If he's the main option down low the spurs are in big, big trouble.

    But so far, Pop's played his hand the wrong way, and now it seems he just keeps doubling down on stupid to save face. Out of desperation he'll be once again forced to play the Tim / TS combo heavy minutes come playoff time and they of course will be out of touch and the likely result will be another playoff ejection.

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    A torch of sorts needs to be passed from Duncan to Splitter. Given the effectiveness of the Splitter/TP P&R pairing, this would become the main staple of the offense, with the rest of the guys feeding off open looks generated from it. The Dejuan Blair experiment should be mercifully ended. If he's the main option down low the spurs are in big, big trouble.

    But so far, Pop's played his hand the wrong way, and now it seems he just keeps doubling down on stupid to save face. Out of desperation he'll be once again forced to play the Tim / TS combo heavy minutes come playoff time and they of course will be out of touch and the likely result will be another playoff ejection.
    So that's one vote for parking Tim in the perimeter pasture.

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    Do we have the advanced stats on the combos from the last playoffs.

    I don't remember seeing them.
    Ya, it's in the Timvp thread.

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    Ya, it's in the Timvp thread.
    OK. Will look.

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    Ya, it's in the Timvp thread.
    I saw one from last season but not the playoffs specifically.

    http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...0&postcount=88

    OK, if that includes the playoffs, why is it so much worse now?

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