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  1. #776
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    Fair enough..... but dude is ing unique and awesome... you can see he's on a different level not only for his generation... the fact that there's even a conversation about it shows how great he is.
    so how come he cant replicate that on the international stage

    dont say coach and team is compared to barca...its not like pep is doing besides riding the team

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    Maradona wasn't able to do on the international stage 'till he was 26, Messi is 24.

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    Maradona wasn't able to do on the international stage 'till he was 26, Messi is 24.
    Well the WC is in 2 years, so Messi is gonna fail soon

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    Barca is at that level where they go through the motions against trash in the primera but when the CL or Copa matches come up they wake up and do things like win the first leg of group of 16 away by 3-1. After three straight league les they took it for granted this year against the crap teams.

    How Madrid can even consider themselves the champions when any time they go head up with Barca they get handled is beyond me, but such is life without playoffs.

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    Well the WC is in 2 years, so Messi is gonna fail soon
    I actually lol'd

  6. #781
    If Messi never wins a WC, not only is he not the best player of all-time(which is a ing joke), but he becomes the most overrated footballer of all-time.

  7. #782
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    Not really. He needs a WC win to be put up at the top though.

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    Not really. He needs a WC win to be put up at the top though.
    He can't do anything without Xavi and Iniesta.

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    Who would you say is the GOAT?

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    Who would you say is the GOAT?
    Not Lionel Mini

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    So who?

  12. #787
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    Pele of course

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    Pele had one of the most stacked teams of all time with those Brazil teams, why doesn't anybody bring this up?

    (I'm not disagreeing, I just think if you're going to say Messi has a lot of help then you have to say Pele did)

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    Pele had one of the most stacked teams of all time with those Brazil teams, why doesn't anybody bring this up?

    (I'm not disagreeing, I just think if you're going to say Messi has a lot of help then you have to say Pele did)
    He did have talent around him, no question

    Tostao, Rivellino, etc .....

    But he was still an amazing impact player, and made the sickest plays I've ever seen

    He also won a WC at 17

  15. #790
    Who would you say is the GOAT?
    Although I never saw Pele play, I would have to give it to him. As far as players I've seen, I know for certain OG Ronaldo was a better player; I have no question in my mind about that.

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    Everybody is en led to their opinions and personal preferences but to say that Messi beign argued in the GOAT discusion is a "joke" isn't honest or a misinformed opinion. Statistically he has had many of the greatest individual seasons ever and at age 24 is on the brink of breaking any record imaginable.

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    Everybody is en led to their opinions and personal preferences but to say that Messi beign argued in the GOAT discusion is a "joke" isn't honest or a misinformed opinion. Statistically he has had many of the greatest individual seasons ever and at age 24 is on the brink of breaking any record imaginable.
    He plays on a super-team where he's spoon-fed goals. All he has to do is literally tap balls in most of the time.

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    I could understand laughing at Ronaldo, but what on Earth could you laugh at Federer about? He's undoubtedly the greatest player of all-time at his sport, a class act and extremely intelligent. The only thing you could laugh at, tbh, is his fat slob of a wife.

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    He plays on a super-team where he's spoon-fed goals. All he has to do is literally tap balls in most of the time.
    do you even watch Barca play??

    You just outed yourself with that statement. Quit talking out of your ass

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    He plays on a super-team where he's spoon-fed goals. All he has to do is literally tap balls in most of the time.

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    do you even watch Barca play??

    You just outed yourself with that statement. Quit talking out of your ass
    I've seen every single goal that Messi has scored. 90% of them come from his outstanding teammates that just overwhelm the opposition and nothing particularly spectacular that he does individually. This is also the reason he shot more than any player in the entire world cup and scored a total of ZERO times.

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    love the double standards that messi gets away with when his playin for barca or NT, then compared him to the other players, the excuse of playin with a team always comes up...

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    He plays on a super-team where he's spoon-fed goals. All he has to do is literally tap balls in most of the time.
    Not only did you never watch Pele play, but you've obviously never watched Messi play. This is the single most wrong statement I've ever seen. It's so incredibly wrong it's inconceivable anything could be as wrong ever again. Messi manufactures more goals, and goals in traffic especially, through tough runs than anyone in the world.

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    He plays on a super-team where he's spoon-fed goals. All he has to do is literally tap balls in most of the time.
    This is re ed. Xavi has 6 asissts in la liga and Iniesta has 4, Messi has 23 goals. How is that most of the time?

    Also Messi has the most assists on the team so if anything he's the one doing the spoon feeding.

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