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    🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 ElNono's Avatar
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    Bull . they are doing allot not done before. Some if OK, but they are clearly overstepping.
    Logical fallacy. If there's currently a false sense of security, then that's the result of the system as a whole, not of just any new perks added to it.

    As the OP astutely points out, it's actually counter-productive, since cramming so much people at these areas make it an ideal target.

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    Logical fallacy. If there's currently a false sense of security, then that's the result of the system as a whole, not of just any new perks added to it.

    As the OP astutely points out, it's actually counter-productive, since cramming so much people at these areas make it an ideal target.
    You will never have 100% security. Box cutters were as good as they could get past. The difference we needed to be concerned with was gaining flight control. The rest was necessary.

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    2/13/2012 update: This story has led to new legislation being introduced in the U.S. Senate. Click here for that part of the story.


    DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) - Women passengers complain that TSA agents are targeting them for extra screening.


    The Transportation Security Administration has a policy to randomly select people for extra screening, but some female passengers are complaining. They believe there is nothing “random” about the way they were picked.


    A Dallas woman says TSA agents repeatedly asked her to step back into a body scanning machine at DFW International Airport. “I feel like I was totally exposed,” said Ellen Terrell, who is a wife and mother. “They wanted a nice good look.”


    When Ellen Terrell and her husband, Charlie, flew out of DFW Airport several months ago, Terrell says she was surprised by a question a female TSA agent asked her. “She says to me, ‘Do you play tennis?’ And I said, ‘Why?’ She said, ‘You just have such a cute figure.’”


    Terrell says she walked into the body scanner which creates an image that a TSA agent in another room reviews. Terrell says she tried to leave, but the female agent stopped her. “She says, ‘Wait, we didn’t get it,’” recalls Terrell, who claims the TSA agent sent her back a second time and even a third. But that wasn’t good enough.


    After the third time, Terrell says even the agent seemed frustrated with her co-workers in the other room. “She’s talking into her microphone and she says, ‘Guys, it is not blurry, I’m letting her go. Come on out.’”
    http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/02/03/f...rgeted-by-tsa/

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    I got to go through the full TSA terrorist pat down a couple of weeks ago when I flew to Florida to go fishing. ers. I was wearing my orthotic brace on my foot and the metal buckle dinged the metal detector. I pulled up my pants leg and showed them and offered to let them wand me and see that it was the buckle (there was a wand laying right there) OR I offered to take it off and go through again...but noooooo...got the full TSA nut and testicle massage... ers even swabbed my hands for explosive residue...

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    that's effing bull

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    that's effing bull
    Oh...the dude told me "I'll only use the BACK of my hand in your crotch area and inside your waistline"...like that makes a big ing difference...they also stick their hands down inside your pants all the way around....

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    “It totally voids the concept of the 4th Amendment,” Paul said. “It doesn’t make us safe. It undermines our liberties.”
    The congressman noted he voted against the Department of Homeland Security, which he called a “bureaucratic monster.” Paul said government shouldn’t be responsible for providing security for the airlines.

    “It shouldn’t be government,” Paul said. “The people who protect very dangerous chemical plants, they’re private sources. … The assumption that the government has to do this is the wrong assumption.”

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    “The people who protect very dangerous chemical plants"

    There were years ago singled out to be extremely vulnerable terrrorist targets that the for-profit owners did all about. Security is expensive, less security means more money for mgmt and stockholders.

    RP lives in a ideological fantasy world.

    His adoring a fake and a hack like Ayn Rand is all any serious person needs to know to write this er off as a deluded loser.

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    “The people who protect very dangerous chemical plants"

    There were years ago singled out to be extremely vulnerable terrrorist targets that the for-profit owners did all about. Security is expensive, less security means more money for mgmt and stockholders.

    RP lives in a ideological fantasy world.

    His adoring a fake and a hack like Ayn Rand is all any serious person needs to know to write this er off as a deluded loser.

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