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    Yesterday I speculated on some of the reasons Rick Santorum has problems with women voters. This interview from 2006 sure isn’t going to help.

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    For starters, does he realize that married women (men too!) use birth control? The impression that Santorum finds the prevalent practice of birth control “harmful to women” is, frankly, mind-numbing. If he meant to focus on teen sexual promiscuity, he surely could have, and thereby might have sounded less out of touch.

    Now, he qualifies his religious views by saying he doesn’t vote against contraception “because it’s not the taking of a human life” (in other contexts he has emphasized that as a legal matter he has no problem with contraception). But how does that square with his professed belief that a candidate’s values are essential to understanding and predicting his behavior? Perhaps that’s an abortion-only rule. (And really, where are George Stephanopoulos’s questions on this topic when you need them?)

    In any event, this sort of thing undermines Santorum’s electability argument. (Current polling match-ups between President Obama and each of the two frontrunners, before the GOP has a nominee and before Santorum’s record is out there, are virtually useless.) This is how, in part, he lost Pennsylvania — by appearing extreme and schoolmarmish, too far to the right of average voters in a purple state. If he is the nominee in 2012, he might get some blue-collar fellows, but what about those women in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.? And what about more secularized suburban communities? Fuggedabou .

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    I don't see how this guy will get women to vote for him. Its the same issue with Newt. If Republicans want to have a chance, they will need single women to vote R in November. I'm not so sure Romney can get their vote either. But he seems to have less controvertial positions on birth control.

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    The pill IS bad for women, especially if they smoke too.

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    Are women afraid he is going to outlaw birth control?


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    The pill IS bad for women, especially if they smoke too.
    It's especially bad for a fetus when it doesn't work right.

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    Are women afraid he is going to outlaw birth control?

    Do you think it's out of the realm of possibilities he would propose something like that?

    I don't think it would pass Congress though. The deeper question is how much time are we going to waste on contraceptive policies should he be at the helm?

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    Do you think it's out of the realm of possibilities he would propose something like that?
    Uh, yes.

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    I don't understand why he's being labeled someone that "hates" or has "problems" with women.

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    I don't understand why he's being labeled someone that "hates" or has "problems" with women.
    Playing the sexist card. That's all it is. Liberals have numerous bigot cards stacked in their decks. You should know that by now.

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    Playing the sexist card. That's all it is. Liberals have numerous bigot cards stacked in their decks. You should know that by now.
    His position on same sex marriage easily lands him in the bigot bin.

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    His position on same sex marriage easily lands him in the bigot bin.
    Depends on why. I am one who believes marriage should remain traditional. Is tradition bigotry?

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    Depends on why. I am one who believes marriage should remain traditional. Is tradition bigotry?
    It doesn't depend on why. If the tradition is to exclude people from a silly, legally binding agreement simply based on their sexual orientation, then it is bigotry.

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    the problem with birth control, will the govt take care of the child if the parents cant take care of them?

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    Depends on why. I am one who believes marriage should remain traditional. Is tradition bigotry?
    Slave owners held a similar view....just sayin'.

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    His position on same sex marriage easily lands him in the bigot bin.
    You mean, the same position held by the majority in California?

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    Slave owners held a similar view....just sayin'.
    Some did. Most actually believed them inferior.

    If slavery were around today, how many people might own slaves just to give some slaves a better life than they would have under a different master? Not all slave owners were bad, or bigots. Would you agree?

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    Certainly not all. Only fools paint in absolutes.

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    Why would a "good" person want to own and control another?

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    I don't. That said, I don't think it would necessarily fly.

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    Why would a "good" person want to own and control another?
    duh, to give them a better life!

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    LOL @ slavery comparison.

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    His position on same sex marriage easily lands him in the bigot bin.
    Its the same general stance our President has............

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    InSaneTorum is against all forms of birth control, exactly like the hard-core Catholic Church position, chemical and mechanical, which is guaranteed to cause 100Ks more unwanted births and abortions.

    TX's Repug war on contraception means TX's annual 80K abortions will probably jump to 100K.

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    Its the same general stance our President has............
    Doh!

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    I don't. That said, I don't think it would necessarily fly.
    Ha. Your second sentence pretty much is laughing at your first sentence, but as long as you think he would. Pfffff

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