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I know when I got my passport the certified copy of my birth certificate was like $5.
So how much do the copies of the do ents needed to get the free i.d. cost?
I know when I got my passport the certified copy of my birth certificate was like $5.
How much would it have cost if you were never given a birth certificate and had to get an original issued?
I think it's a hassle that attacks a non-issue. So we're back again at throwing money at a non-problem. Obviously, if you think there's some "massive voter fraud" going on, we all would like to see you back that up.
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Get real. If you were born in the 19th century you had a birth certificate. , My 92 year old father that grew up as poor white trash in bum- East Texas has one.
If I lose my naturalization certificate, it's $600 + months to get another one.
Well, you shouldn't be allowed to vote anyway.
The system works!
So now we have proof of how much it cost you to get a passport, and the fact that your father has a birth certificate.
Yay.
This is supposed to do what exactly?
It hardly cons utes proof of anything, but let's give you the point.
You still haven't proven, or even tried to prove that this new goverment requirement solves an actual problem.
How much is it going to cost the government to impliment? Even if the cost is free to the people getting the ID someone's gotta pay for it.
Which taxes do you want to increase to pay for it?
CC let me know when you from your own passport costs and your dad's birth certificates to actually having something that can reasonably show this study was wrong.
http://www.brennancenter.org/page/-/...file_39242.pdf
I'm not asking for the moon, here.
Can't you apply a gram or two of common sense, or are your gram measurements in Hopium?
lol assuming maximum efficiency of unfunded state mandates. The law isn't needed.in the first place. Turns out, voter impersonation isn't very common.
Most people do have such do ents, and if they don't should be scrutinized. I can see provisions made to allow the legal voting status if you can show you have been a resident for so long. There will be records like the schools you attended.
Every one should be in favor of insuring election integrity. I wonder about the integrity of those who don't care about integrity. Think about that for a bit.
Hard to say since it isn't looked for now, is it?
Alleged voting fraud isn't investigated? Is that the claim?
In part.
The democrats keep claiming voter fraud, but them never want policies to look into it. I see this as republicans calling democrats on their bull . As i see how easy it would be to get away with it here in Oregon, I know it has to be happening. A long time ago, I brought up, maybe quoted the Oregon voters pamphlet on how to get registered. I'll bet other states are as lax as well. I can go by Oregon law and make multiple false ID's, and vote. They never follow up.
Technicalities and hypertechnicalities historically have hindered more voters than crooks. This law aims a bazooka at a fruit fly; eligible voters will receive the blast.
Evidence?
Evidence?
Possession of a fake ID is a felony. Why don't you take a chance and then tell us how it goes?
Sorry WC, there simply isn't any evidence of the problems you are trying to pull out of your ass.
Wisconsin voter ID law found uncons utional:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1339830.htmlArticle III is unambiguous, and means exactly what it says. It creates both necessary and sufficient requirements for qualified voters. Every United States citizen 18 years of age or older who resides in an election district in Wisconsin is a qualified elector in that district, unless excluded by duly enacted laws barring certain convicted felons or adjudicated incompetents/partially incompetents.
The government may not disqualify an elector who possesses those qualifications on the grounds that the voter does not satisfy additional statutorily-created qualifications not contained in Article III, such as a photo ID.
"democrats keep claiming voter fraud, but them never want policies to look into it"
dubya/ head/rove sent all their US Attorneys after voter fraud for years (the one US Att that sent a Repug Congressman to prison for corruption got fired) and they prosecuted exactly one lady for voter fraud.
Organized voter fraud on a scale large enough to throw an election would be extremely difficult to execute.
Much easier way to throw an election is ALEC-driven Repug suppression of Dem voters, screwing up voter rolls, intimidating voters into not voting, election day road blocks (all done in FL in 2000, and certainly elsewhere), websites lying about voting days, voting procedures, closing dates, etc, etc.
I don't know where this number comes from, can't find it.
"At issue are about 600,000 registered Texas voters who may not have a state-issued license or ID"
http://www.newstaco.com/2011/12/01/6...any-to-ignore/
You Repug assholes don't understand what marginal, impoverished lives millions of HaveNot Americans have. You want to disenfranchise AMERICAN CITIZENS because they are likely to vote against the Haves.
Assume the 660K is a good number to disenfranchise, then figure out how to organize a voter fraud strategy so those 600K vote
One also must ask why it's the Repugs who fight against review, criticism, paper-trails, etc, of Repug-supplied electronic voting machines.
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