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Plus it's unlikely Tony would pass the ball to either Melo or Amare.
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Hell no!
No dice. I'd rather have Lin since a Harvard grad is smart enough to know you don't do pushups right before critical free-throws tbh.
Plus it's unlikely Tony would pass the ball to either Melo or Amare.
Without a point guard, having howard is a waist. Ford is terrible and manu would be gased by the playoffs. Pass!
What about Corey Joseph?
The biggest problem is I just don't see Dwight passing the ball to Manu any more than Tony does. I'm not sure what this deal is supposed to accomplish.
Howard played with Jameer Nelson. Isn't that difficult to dump the ball to someone like Dwight.
You really think they could bring home a trophy with their PG's being TJ Ford, Cory Joseph, and Neal? I'm not trying to bait you - I really wonder if you think that could happen.
No cuz he wouldn't stay
TP is a Spur for life..I can't imagine him, Manu on any other team.
Are some of you really saying no? Parker is a great player and has been carrying this team but Howard is in a different tier. Top 3-5 player in the league for the past couple of seasons.
Id do it for a season rental as well. I like our chances to win it all this year better with Dwight, Manu, and Tim than I do with Manu, Tony, and Tim. What happened after this year wouldnt matter much if we got that 5th ring. If I put sentimental feelings aside and simply looked at it from a purely basketball perspective Id even be willing to trade Manu for a season rental of Howard.
i'd do it for a rental as well
but what type of assets would the spurs have to give up? the magic want youth and picks and talent. do you believe you can beat the nets' package with tp + rj + neal + pick(s)? definitely not.
There is no possibility of this happening
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Rather trade Manu. I would trade either if Dwight agreed to an extension before hand. No way for a half a season.
Trading PG dominance*for big dominance...
* when the opposing PG is not called Mike Conley Jr
Before I get too invested, I just want to state that this trade would never happen in a million years. Trading a big for a guard is generally considered a cardinal sin and in this case the magic have the better player.
I do think we'd have a better shot at winning it all if we acquired Dwight and lost Tony in the process. The hole at point is definitely glaring but Dwight is probably the most dominant big men in the game today. History has been kind to teams with dominant bigs, and for good reason. With that said.. its still a tough trade to swallow given Tony's history and the fact that Dwight's extension isn't guaranteed. But to have Dwight, even as a rental, makes a ton of sense from a business perspectiv (media coverage, ticket sales, merch etc). It also gives us the option to potentially sign one of the legit franchise players in the NBA (pretty rare position for small market teams to be in.) Additionally, we give Duncan another shot at the le with a serious talent upgrade. The trade won't answer our prayers and hand us a championship, but I do believe it puts in an excellent position to do so.
No, because Howard would not resign and I would not give away a franchise PG for a rental. Howard does not guarantee a championship as his ringless fingers indicate. I like our chances with the roster we have in this wide open season. I like our future as well with a 29 year old top 5 point guard and a 27 year old center who looks very promising in his own right.
Howard is no doubt the best big man in the game right now, but his game is based almost solely on his athleticism. His game is not going to age like a fine wine, it is going to age like milk. I would not want to be the one holding his max contract when he spoils.
So you wouldn't do it even if he agrees to a max deal?
It would be addition by subraction. I personally don't like the idea of losing an elite pg for a center who can't help his current team win when it matters most. Some of that falls on the shoulders of van gundy for underutilizing his center and admittedly, thats part of orlando's problem. But, i can assure you, orlando won't win in the post season with nelson running the point and howard, although he won't say, knows this.
Anyone who wouldn't is seriously out of their minds and knows literally nothing about the NBA or basketball in general.
He should be playing for the toros. He's getting next to no playing time and with manu back in the fold, he sure to stay on the bench.What about Corey Joseph?
If he was going to sign a max deal I would be tempted to chance it. I do believe Howard is going to flame out early, but it is a big man's game and it might be worth the risk. That being said, I'm a loyalty guy and I want all the big three to retire as Spurs, so the decision is tough for me. I would not so quickly ship off a guy who was a major contributor in three le runs.
Heh... no, I know we're suspending disbelief to even discuss it.
If the deal is getting him extended, then we could dig up a serviceable PG next season and be a favorite. But as a rental? I don't know, I just have visions of a frustrating post-season, with a stagnant offense. One thing I think people should keep in mind is that Howard has already proven that one guy - even the most dominant big man in the game today - can't do it by himself.
Has everybody forgotten what it looked like tonight, with Joseph at the point? And that was against the Raptors. And even though Neal has improved some, we still know where the offense goes with him at the point. I don't know, maybe with a healthy Manu facilitating along with TJ Ford. But I still don't see it. Without a legitimate starting NBA PG, I think this Spurs team would finish the playoffs about like Orlando has the last few years.
Extended, yes - for next year. Rental? I just don't think so.
Look at it another way: could the 06 Heat have won it all without Dwayne Wade? With Ford, Neal, and Joseph as fill-in PG's? I know there are some differences, but I think the analogy works.
Wouldn't do it, tbh.
I'm sitting here asking myself... is this really a thread?
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