View Poll Results: Who will be remembered as the better player?

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  • Kobe Bryant

    36 69.23%
  • LeBron James

    16 30.77%
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  1. #26
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    More power to ya, brah I guess there's no shame in being the 4th option behind Wade, Bosh, and Chalmers in the 4th quarter of championship games.
    LeBron is always the #1 option, however, he is not selfish and doesn't make stupid basketball plays like Kobe Bryant. See: Field Goal Percentage, AST:TO Ratio

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    LeBron is always the #1 option, however, he is not selfish and doesn't make stupid basketball plays like Kobe Bryant. See: Field Goal Percentage, AST:TO Ratio
    Tbh 6-8' 250lb first options should exploit being guarded by Jason Kidd in the clutch.

    Not everybody has a killer instinct though, so don't beat yourself up, kid.

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    Tbh 6-8' 250lb first options should exploit being guarded by Jason Kidd in the clutch.

    Not everybody has a killer instinct though, so don't beat yourself up, kid.
    Killer instinct = not conscious of what is a good basketball play, I guess.

    Also, Jason Kidd is one of the best defenders of his era. Not exactly a solid argument. Of course he has size on him, but the Mavs were playing a zone the entire series, which, btw, got called for 0 defensive 3 seconds. lol Stern

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    Lebron never had a big man. lol Bosh

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    LeBron shoots better than Kobe
    what?

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    tbh, would you call having a 6-8' 250 pound mid-20's MVP going against a 38 y/o PG a matchup advantage?

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    No idea why that would be funny. Check the 3 point percentages the last couple of years. Not even close. Just because you jack up a ton of shots and occasionally make some doesn't make you a good shooter.

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    tbh, would you call having a 6-8' 250 pound mid-20's MVP going against a 38 y/o PG a matchup advantage?
    Yes, but it's not the complete mismatch you're making it out to be, particularly when you consider it was a zone defense.

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    Your so smart Online. Frenzy's Avatar
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    If you put "at passing" at the end of that le this becomes a landslide.

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    Right now it's not even a debate. It's Kobe, period. LeBron's last two playoffs have ended in epic failures. Can't blame him for Orlando 2009, he actually played out of his mind in that series.

    Still all time greats don't do what LeBron did in the Finals last year. He's got a major redeeming job ahead of him.

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    it's not the complete mismatch you're making it out to be
    Yes, it is. Dallas constantly switched from zone to man (and vice-versa) throughout the series.

    To suggest that a great player like LeBron couldn't get his in the Finals b/c of an intermittent zone defense means he was unable to adapt his game, killing your previous point about his ability to adapt and evolve.

    Now we've come full circle in why Kobe will be more remembered.

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    Yes, it is. Dallas constantly switched from zone to man (and vice-versa) throughout the series.

    To suggest that a great player like LeBron couldn't get his in the Finals b/c of an intermittent zone defense means he was unable to adapt his game, killing your previous point about his ability to adapt and evolve.

    Now we've come full circle in why Kobe will be more remembered.
    Because of stellar performances in the Finals like 6/28. lmfao

    And no, they played a zone about 70 percent of that series. Chandler was literally parked in the paint not guarding anyone. Again, lol Stern.

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    I would be interested to see LeBron's NBA Finals PER for his career vs. Kobe's... even though 2 of LeBron's worst performances of the playoffs came in the Finals, and one was where he was basically a rookie and had no business being in the Finals to begin with. He also did not have Shaquille O'Neal on his team.

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    Because of stellar performances in the Finals like 6/28. lmfao

    And no, they played a zone about 70 percent of that series. Chandler was literally parked in the paint not guarding anyone. Again, lol Stern.
    70 percent? Where'd you come up that #, tbh?

    Kobe shot 6/24=won finals
    Lebron too scared to shoot=lost finals

    I wish I could change history and make you a happier, less bitter person, but I'm afraid those were the results.

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    Kobe shot 6/24=won finals
    Lebron too scared to shoot=lost finals
    What on Earth would that prove? That Kobe Bryant has been carried by his teammates his entire career? If that is your point, I agree whole-heartedly.

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    What on Earth would that prove?
    That Kobe went swinging, and Lebron struck out looking.

    The Carlos Beltran of the NBA

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    Hard to say, LBJ isn't the golden child since he left the Cavs. Around the world, most people will say Kobe is the best in the league even though he isn't.

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    Hard to say, LBJ isn't the golden child since he left the Cavs. Around the world, most people will say Kobe is the best in the league even though he isn't.
    Goes back to what I was saying about people being brain-dead.

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    Probably Kobe. Even if LeBron wins multiple championships and Finals MVPs, there is the taint of him having to join up with Wade and Bosh in order to do so. Similar to what Kobe would have been remembered for had he not won two more championships post Shaq. In terms of historical legacy, LeBron made it tougher for himself because he did that. Might have been different had he gotten players to join him in Cleveland. But because he went to Miami to another superstar's team, because it was joining a guy who had won an NBA championship and Finals MVP, he has a steep uphill battle to take that tarnish off. Might be unfair, but I think that's something that will be sidenoted on his NBA resume.

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    Definitely unfair. Kobe having the ability to draw players to LA and constantly have the most stacked teams shoud count against him then. Without the lopsided Pau deal it's likely you don't see this version of the Heat.

    No one is going to CLE so can't hold that against him.

  21. #46
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    LeBron wins 2 championships with dominant play, he surpasses Kobe, period.

    One to redeem his previous failure and one to make his mark as alpha dog. I honestly think he'll win more than two, but two is a starting point. He'll be regarded as better than Kobe nearly everywhere but LA and Cleveland if that happens. After all, Lebron's got to try to win without a dominant big on his team, rather unlike Kobe who had the great fortune of playing with two or more dominant bigs over the course of his career. Bosh, of course, is a pale imitation of the prime Gasol/Shaq/Bynum turnstile.

    The Lakers have won in spite of Kobe, not because of him. If Lebron puts up numbers in the finals consistent with his play so far this season, or with his play in the ECF last year, I think he will have begun to redeem himself already, and the Heat should take the LOB with relative ease.

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    As of right now, it would be Kobe. LeBron has a ways to go before he can catch him. Even then, like JamStone said, the fact that he had to leave his team and join a proven player will be held against him.

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    Right now Kobe but if Lebron wins around three rings in his career he will easily be considered the better player. When it's all said and done (barring any major injury) Lebron will be right up there in terms of pts, rbds, assts, stls, etc.

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    Lots of Lebron apologists in the San Antonio fanbase.

    It's almost as if they have an ulterior motive in pulling for the guy...almost

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    If Lebron wins multiple championships, regular season MVP's and finals MVP's nobody would give a about him joining the Heat, tbh.

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