I see the high cobra krackhead is at it again.
Only a krackhead would think Serge Ibaka is worth a "full offer".
Guys who get those are guys who are cornerstones of their respective teams. Lemarcus Aldridge would be an example of a "full offer" kind of guy. Ibaka will make (if he's lucky) Lamar Odom kind of money someday. If he's lucky.
It's not? Maybe you just need to try some of the cobra's fine happy dust.
Consider. This year.
Ibaka in 27 minutes averages 8 pts 7 reb 3 blk
Birdman in 27 minutes averages 10 pts 9 reb 3 blk
I don't know about you but when I look at those numbers they just don't tell the whole story. The happy dust speaks to me, knowhutimsayin'?
Except Bird-doo isn't good enough to play 27 minutes. He only plays 15 minutes and has only played 23 games and lost this job to a guy named Timofey.
Ibaka NBA EFF rating 14.2 | 22 years old
Bird-doo NBA EFF rating 8.8 | 33 years old
You have to overpay for bigs in this league. It's a fact of life. Another fact of life is that Dwight Howard isn't coming here. We'll have to steal a younger big who still has the potential to explode into an All Star. Lamar Odom money isn't going to get it done, no matter how many times you say that's what he's worth. The market will decide what he's worth, and I guarantee you that some team is going to throw a boatload of cash at that hard working young man.
Alright Cobra, different points of view, agree to disagree, and let's bury the hatchet.Except Bird-doo isn't good enough to play 27 minutes. He only plays 15 minutes and has only played 23 games and lost this job to a guy named Timofey.
Ibaka NBA EFF rating 14.2 | 22 years old
Bird-doo NBA EFF rating 8.8 | 33 years old
You have to overpay for bigs in this league. It's a fact of life. Another fact of life is that Dwight Howard isn't coming here. We'll have to steal a younger big who still has the potential to explode into an All Star. Lamar Odom money isn't going to get it done, no matter how many times you say that's what he's worth. The market will decide what he's worth, and I guarantee you that some team is going to throw a boatload of cash at that hard working young man.
Essentially: You'll pay max salary for baka next year (and forfeit this year in the process) while I'd rather pay less than a 1/4 of that for Bird-do and get more points and rebound per 27 with an improved chance at a le this year. Different strokes for different folks.
nope.
getting birdman would be a panic move. dude is 34. so far you've been saying that you'd rather have a TOSB of a player over a 22 year old with plenty of upside? i'd much rather see the FO take chances at someone better next year than to screw over next year.
That "TOSB" as you claim, is averaging more points and rebounds in the same number of minutes as baka.nope.
getting birdman would be a panic move. dude is 34. so far you've been saying that you'd rather have a TOSB of a player over a 22 year old with plenty of upside? i'd much rather see the FO take chances at someone better next year than to screw over next year.
There is no way on earth I would pay a guy like baka who averages less than 10 points a game to a max salary. I guarantee you no sane front office is going to either.
You guys are pure comedy gold though, thanks for the entertainment.
Bird-doo is a rapidly declining stock. Whether it is I-block-a or someone else, trading for Bird-doo and his 3y/12M contract closes the FA door for the next couple of years. This is a compressed, injury riddled year, so yeah, I'll write it off if necessary, since Bird-doo doesn't solve our current problems and causes future ones.
Except he doesn't play those minutes. Why not?That "TOSB" as you claim, is averaging more points and rebounds in the same number of minutes as baka.
There is no way on earth I would pay a guy like baka who averages less than 10 points a game to a max salary. I guarantee you no sane front office is going to either.
You guys are pure comedy gold though, thanks for the entertainment.
some people just open their mouths and it'sThat "TOSB" as you claim, is averaging more points and rebounds in the same number of minutes as baka.
There is no way on earth I would pay a guy like baka who averages less than 10 points a game to a max salary. I guarantee you no sane front office is going to either.
You guys are pure comedy gold though, thanks for the entertainment.
reading comprehension buddy. get sumodat.
if birdman was signed for the league minimum, i wouldn't mind. however, getting him now would pretty much guarantee nothing for the future.
there, i spelled it out for you.
Again, we will agree to disagree. I think Bird-do helps the team this year, especially in the specfic areas of need (defense, rebounding, rim protection) and has a few good years left in him. You apparently can't or won't recognize the fact that he's putting numbers better than your "full salary" guy.
And on the subject of shortened seasons, it's actually a feather in teh cap to be able to win a condensed screwed up season like this. It shows character and toughness. And in the end it still counts same as all the others, not matter what Phil Jackson or your half-baked ass claims.
And I guarantee you will be the only one offering baka a max contract next season. Have fun outbidding yourself. I'll be laughing my ass off when he signs for the mid level exception in OKC.
I'd take Birdman any day. Anyone that has seen our bigs an says no to him is a in fool. He is a clear upgrade on the defensive an rebound side than anything we got beside Leonard.
The problem with Bird-doo is that to get him, we'd either have to gut the bench or trade Bonner, which would be big out, big in, no net increase of bigs. We need and additional big, and it's almost impossible to trade for Bird-doo to be that big.
Well, while your head is all the way up your ass waiting for "the future" I'll be happily watching the spurs celebrating this year'ssome people just open their mouths and it's
reading comprehension buddy. get sumodat.
if birdman was signed for the league minimum, i wouldn't mind. however, getting him now would pretty much guarantee nothing for the future.
there, i spelled it out for you.on the riverwalk.
So Andersen = championship?Well, while your head is all the way up your ass waiting for "the future" I'll be happily watching the spurs celebrating this year's
Idk, but i do know he better our chances.
I suppose that would depend on who would be traded for him.
As for Ibaka, I can see his getting Camby-like money from someone. Tyson Chandler got a nice payday as well.
Here's one that works:
Blair, J Anderson, Joseph for C Andersen.
Thanks, Bruno. I don't know if they are that desperate to dump his salary yet.
I think they would defenitely consider it. They get a backup big for a backup big plus two young prospects.
And let's be honest about James Anderson... with Ford returning and Green playing steady it's looking more and more likely he is not going to sniff regular minutes and day soon.
Btw, what's up with calling me Bruno Chump?
That trade would be a pure salary dump. Why do you think he's on the block in the first place?
I think they would defenitely consider it. They get a backup big for a backup big plus two young prospects.
And let's be honest about James Anderson... with Ford returning and Green playing steady it's looking more and more likely he is not going to sniff regular minutes and day soon.
He came up with the deal.
But I'm sure they wouldn't mind replacing Anderson with another backup and they really do need depth at either wing position, hence Anderson could get some PT over there.
Unless you think they are satisfied with Corey Brewer and his eye gauging mohawk run up and down the court.
Wait a minute, you'd trade Blair for Chris Anderson? lol
Well, the thought crossed my mind, yes.
Anderson's overpaid and old. For the minimum I could see, if somehow he got on the FA list. Blair is in his early 20's and is a pretty talented player. Yes, he is fat and isn't the best defender, but he is still pretty talented.
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