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    Yeah because when minorities write books on modern racism the likes of you and WC never criticize. you keep on pulling the martyr card for whitey, Darrin..
    You didn't understand what I said. I'm shocked.

    If a white man writes this book, it's racism. If a black man writes it?


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    Pat's had some health problems recently and is 73. Don't know just how serious but he was in the hospital for close to a week IIRC not too long ago. Wouldn't be surprised if he just stuck to the McLaughlin Group and his column and books from here on out.

    Buchanan isn't afraid to state what one might call "inconvenient facts", especially about race. I recall one TV appearance years ago. Talking about hate crimes he said, "According to the justice department, [something like] 90% of interracial crime between blacks and whites is a black perpetrator and a white victim." Oh the looks on the other panelists faces. Of course no one debated him on that, since it's a fact, at least at the time. They just called him names, per usual.

    Honestly I don't know how he usually remained as calm as he did on TV.

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    You didn't understand what I said. I'm shocked.

    If a white man writes this book, it's racism. If a black man writes it?

    i understood perfectly. you just did exactly what i was referring to.

    your playing it: poor whitey victim of a double standard. i'm not playing your game. poor racially mistreated you and pat buchanan.

    alleged or real hypocrisy in others does not excuse bad behavior.

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    Pat's had some health problems recently and is 73. Don't know just how serious but he was in the hospital for close to a week IIRC not too long ago. Wouldn't be surprised if he just stuck to the McLaughlin Group and his column and books from here on out.

    Buchanan isn't afraid to state what one might call "inconvenient facts", especially about race. I recall one TV appearance years ago. Talking about hate crimes he said, "According to the justice department, [something like] 90% of interracial crime between blacks and whites is a black perpetrator and a white victim." Oh the looks on the other panelists faces. Of course no one debated him on that, since it's a fact, at least at the time. They just called him names, per usual.

    Honestly I don't know how he usually remained as calm as he did on TV.
    Half the time, his "facts" are bull .

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    Hey, different strokes for different folks. I get that others won't miss Pat and I'm totally cool with that. All I meant was, Pat Buchanan has a pleasant personality.
    heard the guy say that the country was better off when there were a higher percentage of whites on Hannity, implying whites should not breed with other races and should not allow them into the country if we want to solve our problems. dude is an idiot.
    So for you, as long as the abuse comes in a pleasant package, it's palatable.

    Fascinating.
    Half the time, his "facts" are bull .

    This criteria has to be at the very least good enough to invoke Godwin's law. Unless the guy runs to the affiliation himself...


    Buchanan has written about the Holocaust and engaged in the defense of some accused of Nazi war crimes. For example, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka. When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan failed to reply. In 1983 he criticized the U.S. Government for expressing regret over its postwar protection of Klaus Barbie. In 1985, Buchanan advocated restoring the citizenship of Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi rocket scientist accused of employing slave labor at a V-2 plant. In 1987, Buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of Karl Linnas, accused of atrocities in Estonia. In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism amongst conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism."[18][19] The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an "unrepentant bigot" who "repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists."[20] Neo-conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said about Buchanan that "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice."[21]
    Pleasant personality...

    Somebody should tell Pat this isn't the 50's anymore. For some sharing his views, being fired is not much.

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    Maybe we should hang Pat Buchanan for his odious, socially retrograde views, or pull his tongue out by the root. Who's in?

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    uh oh

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    Maybe we should hang Pat Buchanan for his odious, socially retrograde views, or pull his tongue out by the root. Who's in?
    Maybe you should stop being a drama queen. He is being treated as a pariah as he should. Such behavior and views should be socially discouraged and physical violence is not being endorsed here.

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    my sarcasm detector is going off the charts!
    No its called the fallacy of exaggeration. I am fully aware of the effect he is trying to pull off my point is that it is unfounded and a line not crosssed. I am demanding in the spirit of the thread that he call a spade a spade and not build men of straw.

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    in a non-related story, FOX news has just announced they have hired noam chomsky to fill an hour in their prime time slots.

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    Maybe we should hang Pat Buchanan for his odious, socially retrograde views, or pull his tongue out by the root. Who's in?
    Really, WH? I know that you like to defend Buchanan, but suggesting that others are out to hang him is something you would not tolerate if other posters did it about someone they wanted to defend.

    Are you related to him somehow?

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    Maybe you should stop being a drama queen. He is being treated as a pariah as he should.
    What took so long?

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    What took so long?
    You aren't me. He would jump on any chance against me.

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    Fuzzy is a bitter old hag. Not charming at all. That shouldn't surprise you.

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    Fuzzy is a bitter old hag. Not charming at all. That shouldn't surprise you.
    It doesn't surprise me at all, but I think calling it a bitter old hag is being generous. That fuzzy lump is probably moldy lumpy .

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    Really, WH? I know that you like to defend Buchanan, but suggesting that others are out to hang him is something you would not tolerate if other posters did it about someone they wanted to defend.

    Are you related to him somehow?
    No.

    I started out by calling him a bigot, not that anyone noticed. Nor when I called him an anti-semite before. Some jackass suggested firing was too kind for PJB.

    What would you infer from that?

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    No.

    I started out by calling him a bigot, not that anyone noticed. Nor when I called him an anti-semite before. Some jackass suggested firing was too kind for PJB.

    What would you infer from that?
    TBH, I wouldn't infer a death threat.

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    well, the poster I was responding to didn't complain.

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    Fuzzy is a bitter old hag. Not charming at all. That shouldn't surprise you.
    Lol. You take 24 hours to respond, constantly tell me that you do not care what I do or say, about me constantlynevertheless to the point of going cavalier for the likes of WC, attempt using lack of charm as ad hominem and have the temerity to paint me as the old woman?


    You put yourself up on the cross with Darrin, the dumbass and Pat, hypocrite.

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    sensitive bitter old creep then. didn't mean to knock your manhood.

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    well, the poster I was responding to didn't complain.
    Well, you are absolutely right about that. You know very well that I am no fan whatsoever of Buchanan's and I considered his book on WWII revisionist history in the extreme. Having said that, I think the man has a right to say things that I disagree with strongly. I also believe that msnbc has a right to hire and fire whomever they wish, much as does Fox.

    Is Buchanan still a regular on that McGlaughlin Report on PBS? I stopped watching it years ago.

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    sensitive bitter old creep then. didn't mean to knock your manhood.
    Classic machismo doesn't resonate with me. I just found it odd that you would term me the old woman when your version of 'charm' is your passive aggressive nonsense. It really made me think more to you then myself. My 'manhood' is okay even under such assault.

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    good for you

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    Are you a woman, winehole? I am being quite serious when I ask.

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    Well, you are absolutely right about that. You know very well that I am no fan whatsoever of Buchanan's and I considered his book on WWII revisionist history in the extreme. Having said that, I think the man has a right to say things that I disagree with strongly. I also believe that msnbc has a right to hire and fire whomever they wish, much as does Fox.
    Agree 100%.
    Is Buchanan still a regular on that McGlaughlin Report on PBS? I stopped watching it years ago.
    Don't think so, but I seldom watch it.

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