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    Yeah, Fennis Dembo was a prolific scorer. You cannot forget Keith Edmondson! Keith went to MacArthur HS, starred at Purdue, then was a top-10 draft pick @ Atlanta. Keith ended up playing one season in San Antonio for the Spurs in a fairly limited NBA career.
    I completely forgot about this kid. Also remember Ski Jones at Marshall was really smooth with the ball and had a wonderful jumper. I think he played at Kansas St. and had a short stent in the NBA.

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    For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.
    Unless that "big with some size" can't play. Might look impressive in warmups, but thats about it tbh.

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    Utah will ram smallball down Pop's throat with Al J, Milsap, Favors, Kanter.

    The kid will play. No more than 20 minutes, no less than 10. There is no possible way we can cover 96 big man position game minutes with Tim, Bonner, and Blair, especially with a B2B coming up.

    0 mins. today, it looks like his only chance of getting PT is in the B2B or if the Spurs get blown out.

    You forgot that RJ and Kawhi are PF's in Pop's eyes. RJ played a lot of PF in his first year with the Spurs, Kawhi played PF in the Clips game and did a decent job.

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    Unless that "big with some size" can't play. Might look impressive in warmups, but thats about it tbh.
    Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.

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    Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.
    Because they're ignorant. Only their ignorance never comes back to haunt them (in the regular season, at least) because the big three are so good that they find a way to keep this team amongst the elite annually.

    Instead of giving a guy a chance who has the physical tools they're lacking (even if, on merit, he's undeserving), like Benson, they do the opposite. Dawson has no future here. A guy like Benson, obviously it would be an extreme long shot, but at least there's an outside chance he could stick. That's not even relevant at the moment though. They just need someone to protect the rim while Duncan rests for the time being. It's that simple.

    They'll soon be on a losing streak, because as you alluded to, the way they won tonight is not the recipe for a sustainable winning formula. I don't like the setup for tomorrow. Duncan and Bonner play major minutes against a physical, rugged front line. An already struggling Trail Blazers team is in the midst of a putrid performance. The Spurs and Bonner in particular, are due for a game where they struggle mightily from three. This has all the makings of a blowout.

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    Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.
    Disagree. Dawson at least knows the system. Noone out there is gonna wow you anyway, hence the reason their out there. I know you have a factuation with any 7 footer, as long as hes breathing, but you might want to stop and think about why Benson and N'diaye are not even candidates considered potential callups, yet an undersize big like Dawson is.

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    Because they're ignorant. Only their ignorance never comes back to haunt them (in the regular season, at least) because the big three are so good that they find a way to keep this team amongst the elite annually.

    Instead of giving a guy a chance who has the physical tools they're lacking (even if, on merit, he's undeserving), like Benson, they do the opposite. Dawson has no future here. A guy like Benson, obviously it would be an extreme long shot, but at least there's an outside chance he could stick. That's not even relevant at the moment though. They just need someone to protect the rim while Duncan rests for the time being. It's that simple.

    They'll soon be on a losing streak, because as you alluded to, the way they won tonight is not the recipe for a sustainable winning formula. I don't like the setup for tomorrow. Duncan and Bonner play major minutes against a physical, rugged front line. An already struggling Trail Blazers team is in the midst of a putrid performance. The Spurs and Bonner in particular, are due for a game where they struggle mightily from three. This has all the makings of a blowout.
    You never even stopped and considered why Atlanta gave up on Benson so soon did yea? You just look at his hieight and think "wow, hes tall and looks like a bsketball player, sign em up!"

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    Disagree. Dawson at least knows the system. Noone out there is gonna wow you anyway, hence the reason their out there. I know you have a factuation with any 7 footer, as long as hes breathing, but you might want to stop and think about why Benson and N'diaye are not even candidates considered potential callups, yet an undersize big like Dawson is.
    As usual, you're missing the point. This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not. It's flat out about having someone who can do that for 10 or so minutes and at least allow them to severely limit the amount of time Blair and Bonner play together, while giving them some type of a presence and deterrent at the rim. I'd much rather watch Benson attempt to guard a guy like Aldridge than watch Blair fail miserably. At least there's a chance Benson's length bothers his shot some.

    And as if Dawson can play, either. This is a token call up, as timvp alluded to.

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    As usual, you're missing the point. This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not. It's flat out about having someone who can do that for 10 or so minutes and at least allow them to severely limit the amount of time Blair and Bonner play together, while giving them some type of a presence and deterrent at the rim. I'd much rather watch Benson attempt to guard a guy like Aldridge than watch Blair fail miserably. At least there's a chance Benson's length bothers his shot some.

    And as if Dawson can play, either. This is a token call up, as timvp alluded to.
    As are alot of teams, yet Benson still sits around, waiting for a phone call from a NBA team.

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    Whether they can play or not is almost besides the point right now. They flat out need another big who can protect the rim and break up the Blair-Bonner pairing. Benson and N'diaye fit the bill. I don't care how uninspiring their play has been in the D-League. At least they'd provide some type of presence/resistance at the rim. Dawson makes no sense whatsoever.
    Benson makes much less sense than Dawson at this point. N'Diaye wasn't as great as your scouting report either.

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    Seriously, TD 21 -- how many times have you seen Dawson, Benson and N'Diaye play this season?

    Combined?

    Zero?

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    Seriously, TD 21 -- how many times have you seen Dawson, Benson and N'Diaye play this season?

    Combined?

    Zero?
    But, but, their 7 feet. Surely they can play.

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    Pop better figure out if he's going to give another big a chance pretty quick. We got out-rebounded 41-33, which is bad. But we got outscored in the paint 56-30. You can't keep winning games like that. We shot a higher percentage from 3P than from 2P. I wouldn't bank on that happening. Why call him up if there's no chance of playing him? They need some help in the middle like right now.
    The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.

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    The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.
    Yeah the front office has to make a move. They made a move in '05 and it paid off. I think they lucked out in '07.

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    But, but, their 7 feet. Surely they can play.
    I haven't seen Benson in person, but N'Diaye was probably waived in part because he was owned by the Toros' smaller-than-Dawson bigs about a month ago.

    As for Benson, he has played about half the games Dawson has this season, but Dawson's rebounding and blocking rates are substantially higher than Benson's.

    I simply don't know what the basis for your opinion is, TD 21. Please explain.
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    I'm glad they're looking. Last year makes it pretty certain that the Spurs don't point to their record as evidence that there's no area of need on the front line.

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    This team is so desperate for length, athleticism and rim protection at the moment, that it doesn't matter whether a big knows the system or can play or not.

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    The Spurs are really rolling and have quite a bit of momentum. However, I think this winning streak is masking their true need for another big along the frontline. Size that will surely be important come playoff time.

    Don't get me wrong. I'm glad they're winning, but I also don't like for how this shapes up down the road. They most certainly need additional help in the middle - and Pop would be a fool to continue ignoring it or believing that his team can survive in the playoffs without such an addition. After all, the regular season is one thing - the playoffs are all together a different animal.

    Yep. I remember last season. And, yeah, I was one of the boneheads who threw common sense out the window and believed that the Spurs could keep winning in the post-season playing small. If anybody had doubts, watching the way Utah went after us in the paint last night should have put them to rest. The playoffs are brutal, and it's no coincidence that the playoff teams are strong in the middle.

    If we had last year's Antonio McDyess, and this year's Tiago Splitter, I'd feel pretty good. We just called up a big man who knows the system through his Toros experience. PUT HIM ON THE FLOOR!!! One W/L, more or less, at this point in the season isn't going to change things that much. Let him surprise you, or let him prove he doesn't belong here.

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    A Spur’s path: From a crash to his dream

    Ten years ago almost to the day, Eric Dawson saw his world turn upside down.

    Literally. He was flipped during a game and landed face first. He was out cold, and his high school coach remembers one vivid detail.

    A tooth jammed through a lip.

    “I knew there was some damage,” Wayne ey joked Monday. “Because he kept talking about what a good coach I was.”

    Sam Houston hung on to beat Kerrville Tivy without Dawson, advancing in the playoffs for a game the next day against Roosevelt. ey left it up to Dawson and Dawson’s mother whether he should play.

    What followed is a reason ey says Dawson is among the top three players he had in more than 30 years of coaching.

    And why Dawson finally reached his dream Monday night.
    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...-to-his-dream/

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    Yep. I remember last season. And, yeah, I was one of the boneheads who threw common sense out the window and believed that the Spurs could keep winning in the post-season playing small. If anybody had doubts, watching the way Utah went after us in the paint last night should have put them to rest. The playoffs are brutal, and it's no coincidence that the playoff teams are strong in the middle.

    If we had last year's Antonio McDyess, and this year's Tiago Splitter, I'd feel pretty good. We just called up a big man who knows the system through his Toros experience. PUT HIM ON THE FLOOR!!! One W/L, more or less, at this point in the season isn't going to change things that much. Let him surprise you, or let him prove he doesn't belong here.
    At one point in the 3rd quarter, the Jazz had scored something like 50 of their 84 points in the paint.

    Yes. The only way to find out whether this kid can play is to put him on the floor. He shouldn't just be sitting idle, keeping the bench seat warm until Tiago comes back.

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    I would prefer to see some PT for Dawson to avoid the Bonner/Blair combo and to see what he can do.

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    Here's to hoping the man gets a chance tonight!

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    For a team that already has two undersized bigs (Bonner's got t-rex arms and plays small) it would probably make sense to get a big with some size.
    I am not saying you are wrong. I think you are 100% correct. The problem I am having is writing him off just because he isn't 6'10"-7'. I am just wanting people to reserve judgement till after he plays.

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    Just for info:

    Eric Dawson already signed contract with Union Olipija, Ljubljana, Slovenija; however never came in Ljubljana. Olimpija also got his Letter of Clearence. After Olimpija got payed all cost, they decided not to sue and issued LOC

    http://kosarka.si/uol-dawson-povrnil...porov-ni-bilo/

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