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That Slovenian team could have made things a lot messier. By being cool about it, they basically made it possible for Dawson to be in the position he's in now.
What were they in for? The D-League buyout and some paperwork?
That Slovenian team could have made things a lot messier. By being cool about it, they basically made it possible for Dawson to be in the position he's in now.
Not one team needs it as bad as this one right now.
It makes sense to give guys an opportunity who have the tools you're lacking. Who the was Neal? Nobody. But they needed shooting and needed it for cheap, so they gave him a try. The rest is history. Green was a more known commodity, but not a major prospect by any stretch. They needed wing depth and someone who could potentially be an above average defender, so they gave him a try. The rest is history. Who's to say Benson wouldn't follow suit? Like I said, it's an extreme long shot, but it's still worth it to give him a look.
ChumpDumper, I've already explained the basis for my opinion and have said I flat out don't care if they can play. I seriously doubt Dawson can either, but even if he is in another league from them, who cares? They need someone to guard the basket and both of them have a better chance at doing it than he does. It's that simple.
Based upon what?
Not actual performance this season. True centers should really dominate in the D-League this season. I you only have a height fetish, call up the 7'5" Will Foster. Too bad he barely plays for his D-League team.
Being able to play is really the first thing to look for in an NBA player tbh.
As far as I understand: Dawson signed with Olimpija before he signed with Spurs. Since Olimpija already had all his papers (contract + LOC), Dawson was their player.
It looks like that immediately after signing for Olimpija he got offer from Spurs...
This team's weakness in the middle destroys any advantage on the perimeter like having one of the best backcourts in TP/Manu. In the playoffs you really need defenders that can defend the post without help otherwise teams will pick you apart.
Based upon their physical tools. You need to regularly watch players to know the subtleties of their game. You don't need to watch them to know the basics of their game.
For example, before I saw Neal play a game, I already knew he was an undersized knockdown shooter, who couldn't run an offense and would struggle to physically guard his position. What I found out from watching him was that he was good off the dribble and had a deadly floater.
In most cases, yes, being able to play is obviously the first thing to look for. But in this case, they merely need a placeholder. Someone who at least has a shot at doing a reasonable Splitter impersonation defensively.
I don't think it worked that way. He was working under a D-League contract until January 19, when I assume that deal was bought out by Olimpija and he signed the deal.
There was talk less than a week after that the deal was going south and he might be back. He was back under a D-League contract February 10, and I didn't hear of any complaints from Olimpija at that time.
Unless there was something like a personal problem, there was no reason for Dawson to pass up a nice payday overseas. He had done it pretty much every previous year he played for the Toros. There's a tiny possibility he had some kind of call-up promise from the Spurs, but that seems unlikely. Given Olimpijas financial troubles this season, it doesn't make sense for them just to let Dawson go anywhere else without getting something in return. Seems more likely that some part of the contract wasn't met early on, Dawson just never showed up and there was nothing they could do about it.
So you just go by measurements and other people's scouting reports.
What the Spurs need is a shot blocker. The Spurs can score some points, that's a given. If the guy can score in the post, it's a bonus. But they need someone who can alter shots at the rim and clog the paint. While Dawson may be a place holder, if any big man that the Spurs bring can grab some rebounds, block some shots, and keep the guards out of the lane, he will be more than just a token call up.
It's preferable that the guy be 6'10" and up. But if Dawson can be the next Ben Wallace, then it won't matter. BIG "if" though.
Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
So since size is completely irrelevant and unnecessary, why even bother signing another big? Why not just play Blair and Bonner at center and Jefferson and Leonard at power forward? Surely, they're all better than any scrub in the D-League.
As many alluded too in previous threads, Dawson is just a bench filler til Splitter comes back. Only way Dawson plays is if there's another injury in the front-court or if a big gets in deep foul trouble.
I don't understand how many expect him to play, the guy has been a D-Leaguer his whole "pro" career.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-21-2012 at 04:39 PM.
Based on your take, size is the only prerequisite to play in the NBA. You don't even bother looking at a player's body of work, just as long as hes 7 foot, hes legit. Watch out, your getting into tjastal territory now.
I'm guessing that some, myself included, expect Dawson to at least get some garbage minutes, possibly even a few spot minutes, considering the Spurs only have 3 bigs right now.
Once again you prove that you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension. It's the only prerequisite given their current situation. When Splitter returns, it's not as necessary. But right now, they flat out need another big who's a presence at the rim, whether they can play or not. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand.Based on your take, size is the only prerequisite to play in the NBA. You don't even bother looking at a player's body of work, just as long as hes 7 foot, hes legit. Watch out, your getting into tjastal territory now.
But you can bet that if the front office was using their brains and went this route, you two idiots would think it was a great move. The next time one of you has an original opinion will be the first.
Once again, you get called out on a ty take, and, per the usual, try to backtrack with your lame, " you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension" schtick. BTW, my neighbor's son is 6'11", and played college ball. He hasn't played in a few years, but since hes 6'11". should he give RC a call?
No, once again I get "called out" by the two pathetic, shameless front office apologists. At least in the case of one, it's merely a schtick. In the case of the other, he's too stupid to even know what that means.Once again, you get called out on a ty take, and, per the usual, try to backtrack with your lame, " you don't have an ounce of reading comprehension" schtick. BTW, my neighbor's son is 6'11", and played college ball. He hasn't played in a few years, but since hes 6'11". should he give RC a call?
The take was a sound one and one that I'm sure the vast majority agree with. I didn't "backtrack" at all. I said "right now", as in while Splitter is out. Once he's back, then it makes sense to sign the best big available. Right now, it should be more about filling a specific need than anything.
Poll, or I call BS.
I agree. This team has enough offensive minded frontcourt players and not enough people to the dirty work like boxing out, rebounding, and playing tough single coverage post defense. How does that relate to height? Undersized forwards tend to be more concerned about scoring and not concerned enough about defense and rebounding. I am not talking about Dawson specifically but about what the FO should be looking for in a big.
I agree about what they should be looking for in a big. Ideally that big would be able to play well with Bonner. That would then allow Splitter to start.
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After watching last night game I think we should have brought up one of our PG who would probably get playing time.
Dawson is what he is...a D-league fodder who's got a chance to play in the nba.
It could pan out for him. It's a high possibility it won't.
Why do you think Dawson isn't a presence at the rim compared to the other players?
You haven't seen any of these people play.
At all.
You're simply talking out of your ass.
lol meltdown. Never takes long, does it?But you can bet that if the front office was using their brains and went this route, you two idiots would think it was a great move. The next time one of you has an original opinion will be the first.
Look, it was a ty take. You just want the tallest player available. That's Will Foster. Only he can't play so he won't play.
Placeholders who can't play won't play.
Because he's undersized and not very athletic. I know he's averaging 1.5 or 6 bpg in the D-League, but unless he's the second coming of Al Jefferson, I seriously doubt he'd be much of a presence at this level given his underwhelming physical tools.
I didn't say that. Guess you've got to fill your quota of things made up.
No, you're talking out of your ass, as usual.
It was an excellent take and your only issue with it is that it came from me and not your lords and saviors, the Spurs front office. I also never said "I just want the tallest player available". I said they need legit NBA caliber length and athleticism inside. It doesn't have to be some 7-5 behemoth, but it can't be some 6-9 guy with underwhelming physical tools.
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