View Poll Results: How would you evaluate the Spurs' 2011 #29 overall draft pick Cory Joseph?

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  • Total bust, pick wasted

    22 15.07%
  • I am not impressed

    49 33.56%
  • Too early to tell

    71 48.63%
  • I like what I've seen tbh

    3 2.05%
  • Kid has some major upside

    1 0.68%
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  1. #26
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    Probably too early to tell with a lean towards the negative end of the poll.
    I think CJ was meant for development in the D-league all along, but with the injuries to TJ and Manu, his call-up was necessary. I'm just not too impressed with his handles, which I thought would be his biggest strength. Unfortunately, sometimes he looks like Roger Mason Jr.

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    Too early to tell.

    But if need be the dominant decision when selecting a first round pick regardless if the draft were weak or not...wasn't the need of a post player greater than the need of a pg? But I digress.

    To that I would speculate the Spurs see something of ornate value in Joseph they think will develop through guidance and nurturing. Other picks listed were of the same with regards to "unknown". What they are doing now is probably an unexpected surprise to their respective teams which selected them.

    Personally...I think he has something that can be tapped and developed regardless of what we're seeing at the time.

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    Well, at least CJ wasn't the worst UT rookie on the court on Thursday night. That's a start, I guess.

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    I agree it's to early to tell. He needs to work on his ball handling skills, maybe develop a cross over or something. He looks like he doesn't have much confidence in that area and picks up his dribble too much.

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    Too Early To Tell. Ask The Question Again In 2 more seasons, and then We can see what type of Player we got..

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    Too Early To Tell. Ask The Question Again In 2 more seasons, and then We can see what type of Player another team got..
    Fixed.

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    I voted "too early to tell" and am pleased to see that option winning out. The reason I gave the poll five options was that I wanted a better grasp of ST's opinion of the pick than a simple yes or no I like it black and white sort of answer. The simple fact of the matter is that CJ is nowhere near the easily written off waste that perusing ST might have you believe.

    I think TimmehC nailed it on the head:
    No summer league.
    Missed most of training camp.
    Team has had maybe 2-3 practices all season.

    Yeah, it's too early to tell.
    While it is clear that CJ isn't ready to be a contributor to a top notch squad this season, I dont think we will be able to properly project his potential until mid-way through next season. I fully expect him to take part in summer league, get a full, real training camp under his belt, and have a better idea of what it takes to succeed on an NBA level by then. No way Joseph should be seeing meaningful court time this season, and clearly the FO never intended for him too. The silver lining of the TJ injury is that now CJ has been thrown to the fire, and this offseason both he and our staff will have a lot of film and game experience to evaluate so that they can all better understand what specifics in his game need fixing and improvement. He's getting to dip his toes in the water in a way guys like Mahinmi and Anderson weren't able to, and in regards to his long term development he will be much better served.

    Lets hope by this time next year, when he will be 21 mind you, the young PG will have a lot more to offer on the NBA level, and give Spurs faithful more reason to expect good things. One thing is certain; the cir stances of this season will have afforded him a lot more knowledge and a better grasp of the NBA game, things he would have been denied this season if all went according to plan.

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    Tinsley > Parker

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    It seems like a waste of pick right now.

    Jon Leuer would help us much more. Seems a good shot blocker.
    I was hoping that the Spurs would take him or Jeremy Tyler. There are plenty of back up point guards and either of these guys could help out some down low.

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    I was hoping that the Spurs would take him or Jeremy Tyler. There are plenty of back up point guards and either of these guys could help out some down low.
    Funny you should say that, at the time I was really hoping SA would take Jeremy Tyler as well. A very young upside big, something we haven't had much of round these parts. Doesn't look like he has done much with Golden State this year though and I haven't see him play at all.

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    He stinks. He looks 12 years old. Give me Nando de Colo.

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    Great write-up and summary, by the way.

    As most people have said, we'll know a lot more about Cory 3 years into his NBA career than we will 3 months into his NBA career. It really shouldn't surprise anyone that a project player looks like a project.

    I loved watching Isaiah Thomas in college, but his play of late has surprised even me. A lot of people would have been scratching their heads if the Spurs drafted an undersized PG with the 59th pick, even if they had gone in a different direction at #29.

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    I don't think he's that bad. Doesn't seem to be intimidated by the moment. Doesn't seem to be dominated like a guy that's not capable of being an NBA player. That said, I don't understand why the Spurs bothered to pick someone so young at a position of immediate need simply because Pop will let Duncan bring up the ball before he lets Joseph get consistent minutes.
    I dont think he is that bad... WTF does this mean?

    Not only is your view obstructed, your opinion is perfectly oatmeal.


    I dont think hes that bad... compared to what?

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    Great write-up and summary, by the way.
    thanks lurker

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    Yet he is.

    Back to the question at hand and strictly using what he has shown on the court I haven't really been impressed. It also looks like no one else has either, he's 0-9-11. Even people who think it's too early to tell don't think he has major upside which would be a great reason to draft someone for what they can offer you in the future.
    Does 0-9-11 stand for the vote numbers when you posted?

    EDIT:
    1) Is the poll private?
    2) Don't take the bait OV, you're better than that.
    Last edited by Manufan909; 02-26-2012 at 12:58 PM.

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    I dont think he is that bad... WTF does this mean?

    Not only is your view obstructed, your opinion is perfectly oatmeal.


    I dont think hes that bad... compared to what?
    So you only read the first six words of a post? Guess you've stopped reading this response then. Dumbass.

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    So you only read the first six words of a post? Guess you've stopped reading this response then. Dumbass.
    Did you see my warning and give in to the dark side anyways?

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    I'm a UT homer (without access to all the Spurs games on TV), so I voted liked what I saw - that's probably too optimistic.

    Still, he's hardly played and had no meaningful training camp to learn the NBA. There's no practice time this year more than any other year - that's an issue.

    It is definitely too early to tell as far as his long term projection.

    He should have been in college this year making Texas a better team.

    The Spurs took a shot at a guy who could be a contributor in 2-3 years, not in 2012. He needs at least another year with a lot more experience (D-League first and foremost).

    Wasn't CJ the 29 pick in the draft? The odds are against you being a player that late in the draft. The Spurs have been more effective than most teams at that stage of the first round.

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    Did you see my warning and give in to the dark side anyways?
    I'm an idiot and didn't read your warning until just now.

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    I don't see why the Spurs drafted a PG though...Tony is still relatively young, and we could have gotten any feasible backup PG we wanted from the FA, just like how we did so with TJ Ford.

    I mean, from what I've seen I'm not impressed, but like what others have mentioned, he hasn't had enough exposure.

    Why didn't we draft a bigman, to adhere to our current needs? The talent pool might be crap, but hey there's gotta be a bigman during the 2012 draft that could have brought more of an impact than Cory Joseph currently.

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    Well there WAS a need at point guard. I just don't see how you fill that need with a 19 year old freshman. It's fairly likely that despite last year's record, the Spurs didn't think they had a real shot at a le this season.

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    Too early to tell, but wasn't he the later #1 pick of the Spurs? Leonard was the one I heard was expected to play and contribute right away, Corey? He is a future project IMO, and not a lottery pick nor near it so I don't know what some of the fans expected.

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    Well there WAS a need at point guard. I just don't see how you fill that need with a 19 year old freshman. It's fairly likely that despite last year's record, the Spurs didn't think they had a real shot at a le this season.
    This is your conclusion with the Spur's selection of Joseph?

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    What pick after Joseph could possibly help the Spurs this year? Seriously, none of the picks would do crap.

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    This is your conclusion with the Spur's selection of Joseph?
    Were it a conclusion, I would have chosen a term other than "fairly likely". Either your reading comprehension sucks or you're spoiling for a fight. For the moment I'll pretend that it was a legitimate question:

    No, it's a guess. There has to be a reason to pick Joseph, I'm just struggling to figure out what it is on a team whose window is still believed to be open by their front office with a coach who's reluctant to give PT to inexperienced players.

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