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Sure it does.
Take him out of the lineups he's in and he's out of the rotation.
I didn't think you were this stupid.
What's gotten into you? Critiquing a Spurs player AND agreeing with me in the same breathe? Forgot your medication?
benefactor, if/when your head get's dislodged from timvp's ass one of these years, you'll realize that I was right. He claimed all Turiaf had on Blair was shot blocking, but he's actually a better, more versatile defender, in addition to being a better mid range shooter. What 'tres posted supports that.
Sure it does.
Take him out of the lineups he's in and he's out of the rotation.
I didn't think you were this stupid.
Who said I agreed with you?What's gotten into you? Critiquing a Spurs player AND agreeing with me in the same breathe? Forgot your medication?
You noticed that too. I'm wondering if his ritalin cut out this week. Its like hes on his own little island.What's gotten into you? Critiquing a Spurs player AND agreeing with me in the same breathe? Forgot your medication?
Thanks for slavishly keeping a record of everything I do.
Don't mention it Chump.Thanks for slavishly keeping a record of everything I do.
No problem.
lol forgot what you posted
And when you are done deflecting with your whole "head up timvp's ass" bit, you can check some actual stats.What's gotten into you? Critiquing a Spurs player AND agreeing with me in the same breathe? Forgot your medication?
benefactor, if/when your head get's dislodged from timvp's ass one of these years, you'll realize that I was right. He claimed all Turiaf had on Blair was shot blocking, but he's actually a better, more versatile defender, in addition to being a better mid range shooter. What 'tres posted supports that.
http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Ronny%20Turiaf
He was never a good shooter from beyond 10ft. Ever. Your statement "Turiaf is actually a good shooter from mid-range" was a lie. Attacking me doesn't make you less of a liar. It just makes you look foolish.
You usually have some good takes but sometimes you're so dense it's ridiculous. I'm not even sure why I'm wasting time replying but ...
In the last three years, DeJuan Blair is 64-for-182 (35.2%) on jumpers outside of ten feet. In the last three years, Ronny Turiaf is 15-for-63 (23.8%) of ten feet. DeJuan Blair attempts 2.19 shots outside of ten feet per 48 minutes over the last three seasons, while Ronny Turiaf shoots 1.47 shots outside of ten feet per 48 minutes over the last three seasons.
So, Turiaf shoots less and for a lower percentage from mid-range. By no definition is Turiaf "more of a threat" from midrange. And if "Turiaf can actually shoot from mid range" so can Blair.
But, yeah, I look forward to how you'll attempt to shimmy out of this one. Typically, you say I'm either twisting your words or I'm bullying you so that'll probably be your go-to move here, tbh.
Spurstalk posters don't respect me
Don't mockingly call someone a genius and then use the wrong form of "there." I'm not the grammar police, in fact I really don't give a , but when you literally just got done mockingly calling someone a genius, and then make a really, really basic mistake like that (twice), you come off looking like an idiot and an ass.
Take your own advice, dude. When you say Turiaf is a threat from midrange, and then somebody pulls out a stat saying he is 13 of his last 60 from 10 feet and out, you're wrong. Continuing to argue your recently disproven argument doesn't make you any less wrong, you just come off looking like an idiot and an ass. Just admit you were wrong, and maybe even consider moving on.
Seriously though, just admit you were wrong. ...I had no problem admitting I was wrong when I didn't double check a couple of things I said in my RRT preview thread. We all do it at some point. Even veteran poster regulators like yourself miss one occasionally.
Looks like TD 21 has some major issues with looking up real stats.
I am very interested in what you have to say next TD21. I'm a lone, lonely, loner with no life. Entertain me!
I wonder if Dice would actually return. Our thin, short, injured big lineup beckons. And there is just nobody out there who the Spurs could acquire that I could see wanting to play in SA. My concern is Pop would overplay a player who is done, ala nick van exel. But in pinch minutes and filling in for injuries I think he would be a great stop gap. It's not like he would play over 20 minutes. Who's with me?
BTW any news if the Spurs are trying to move Anderson. from a pros and cons perspective what are the advantages and disadvantages of keeping him past the trade deadline,? I'm assuming he's done as a prospect rotation player in Pops mind
...Wow...
TD21 is getting his interweb cornhole rammed w/ no lube...
So, any general free agent signings/trades happening?
Turiaf is better at 3 point shots than blare.
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Blair has less range. His numbers are inflated because he most likely shot a higher percentage from 11-12 feet, but I'm talking roughly 15 feet, to be exact.
Apparently you missed what 'tres posted from Hollinger: And while he rarely shoots, he made 40 percent of his shots beyond 10 feet last season, so defenses have to respect his jumper. Turiaf is unlikely to match last season's gaudy 63.2 percent shooting mark, but he'll shoot in the high 50s and get himself to the line.
You don't twist my words so much as you misconstrue them and I've never said or inferred that you were "bullying me". You just can't stand when people aren't patting you on the back. You and your marry band of idiots came up with this "I'm anti-establishment" nonsense. Despite what you may think, I have no schtick. I admit sometimes I do purposely push certain people's buttons, but that's about it.
benefactor, I never said "Turiaf is a good mid range shooter". In this thread, I said "he can actually shoot from mid range" and in another I put "he's a decent mid range shooter". In retrospect, I should have put "he can actually shoot somewhat from mid range". But that's not what I'm talking about when I said I was right. I'm talking about how he's better at more than just shot blocking than Blair and he is.
You're clearly still mad over my obliterating your point about "the Spurs being a good rebounding team" in your RRT thread. Get over it.
Turiaf plays better D, slightly taller, more athletic.
Not the greatest option, but we really lack size in the frontcourt. I mean, currently it looks like the Spurs aren't even going to do anything, so I'll take Turiaf.
And you apparently missed what the actual numbers are. He did not make 40% from beyond 10 feet. From 10-23 feet he made 24% last season. Hollinger was wrong and you were dumb for taking what he said and running with it like it was gospel instead of doing some very simple fact checking...which you should probably go ahead and do now so you can stop with this ridiculous argument.
And yes...I misquoted you(see how easy it is to admit you are wrong?). That doesn't change the fact that he can't shoot from mid-range. He can't actually shoot. He's not a decent shooter. He can't somewhat shoot. 24% is sucking no matter how you try to spin it.
I'm shocked by those numbers from Turiaf. Maybe it's revisionist history, but I seem to remember him being a ver sold mid-range guy on LA. I also think the gap between him and Blair on defense and energy is sizeable despite what advanced metrics might say.
Spurs desperately need someone better than Blair is the original point though.
I don't know...I looked up the link you provided for the stats. While Turiaf has never been good at 10-15 feet, he actually has almost always been better at 16-23 feet. And specifically, his first year in LA he shot 48% from 16-23 feet. So...I'm not sure how you're defining "good" but at least for one year, his first year, I would say he shot well from 16-23 feet. So to say he never shot well outside ten feet seems false.
Why his shooting got worse almost every year is a mystery. But his first two years in LA he shot at least decently from 16-23, and based on seeing him play then, perhaps some posters here thought of him as a better shooter than he later turned out to be.
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