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1. Not a real source
2. Not going to happen
3. Amnestying RJ > Absorbing Okafor's contract
That's what I usually do when I'm excited.If this goes through, I'll eat my dogs the moment the transaction happens.
What a ing pipe dream.
1. Not a real source
2. Not going to happen
3. Amnestying RJ > Absorbing Okafor's contract
Agreed. One of the first things you do. Hopefully someone else picks him up off the amnesty system and takes some of his salary off our hands. For 1M per year he'd be a nice signing - especially for a young team looking to grow but wanting a veteran to mentor youth.
Why do this next year? Start Kawhi this season. As far as signing Batum....maybe. I'd have to really look at the list of available free agents (and see the total money we've got after Duncan/Green) to determine if that makes sense. We've got plenty of wings as it is, and Leonard is our future at SF.
Agreed. Resign Green. After consideration I like the 2 yrs/4M proposal, but I think I'd be willing to go a little higher if needed.
Neal isn't a free agent.
I like Kaman a lot but I don't know what kind of money he'd command. The Spurs should probably gauge Erazem Lorbek's interest first and see if hes a realistic option (and determine just how good they think he can be) before diving in on bigmen.
First priority in the offseason. It'll happen for certain, just not sure exactly what the monetary hit will be
Maybe. I'd prefer to trade the 1st rounder along with Blair/Anderson this season and maybe get a decent prospect for this season's stretch run. If that happens then the need may not be there (nor may the ability is the draft pick is gone).
Agreed. I'd ink him to a two year deal near the vet minimum.
We should also consider signing Nando DeColo to replace Anderson.
1. Correct
2. probably correct, but anythings possible.
3. After giving some thought to this, would the spurs rather pay RJ the remaining 20+ mil and get nothing in return...Or would the spurs be willing to take on an additional 7 mil on a player who will actually earn his payday and is at position of need? This is no slam dunk and I am pretty sure the spurs do not want to simply give $ away
Okafor is definitely a pipe dream. And this "article" isn't much more authoritative then a Vaughn + Oberto + Bowen for LeBron trade thread.
Still, it's fun to dream about a bigman not named Matthew, Bonner, DeJuan or Blair.
someone lives in reality
still, we have Blair, Green, Anderson, I'd give up even Bonner to get a closer version to a bigman
Okafor is the one big I've hoped the Spurs would get for years.
He's the perfect Spur, an African-American who is about as hip as David Robinson. More African than American. More interested in hitting the books than hitting the clubs. (Okay, that was shameless stereotyping but you get the point.) He'd fit right in with the Spurs' Foreign Legion.
He'd be pretty close to his native H-town in SA and he plays exactly the way a Spur big needs to.
Spurs need to get the Lakers to consumate a deal for Okafor, then slip in when the NBA nixes it. (We could send the Lakers' D-league team one of our studs from the Austin Toros.)
There will be a buyout. Some solid big men will be waived. Kaman , Diaw, Turiaf, are the first names comes to mind. No need to trade for this bad contract.
Spurs still have a chance for ring, bringing Okafor here wont increase it too much. With or without Okafor , Spurs have a shot to win West, and then a miracle is needed to win over Miami.
And why Hornets would want RJ ? They have Gordon, Aminu, Ariza at SF. There will be Harrison Barnes, Quincy Miller or Austin Rivers avaible with Minny pick. Or even Gilchrist with their own.
Would be a great addition, but too late now.
The real pipe dream is the thought of signing Batum outright. Portland will overpay to keep him.
I think Timvp has gone nuts. Is Okafor perfect? No, but he gives the Spurs another legit (albeit over paid) big man that would force a defensive brand of ball. Yes, spurs would lose out on the ability to amnesty RJ, but I would argue that the Spurs could salary dump Okafor if they wanted; you can move competent big men if you really want; RJ not so much.
Not only that, but Okafor is better than anyone Spurs could hope for in FA anyways. Spurs, especially if they aren't going into scorched Earth mode are in win now mode and must do something quasi-significant to bolster the front line defensively.
The interesting outcome of the trade is that the Spurs would be projected to lose four games because of it while the Hornets would be plus three. Check it out.
Nobody wanted Bowen when the Spurs picked him up.
Nobody wanted Horry when the Spurs picked him up.
Okafor is a good player whose value is low right now. That's not a bad thing, that's a good thing. (Just ask someone who has made a few bucks in the stock market, like the Spurs, rather than the many who have lost on stocks, like the rest of the NBA.)
his value is low right now, b/c his salary isn't.
ever thought about coherences.
RJ's value in 2009 was low enough to get him for just a bunch of expiring contracts, b/c his salary no longer met his impact.
was it a good deal for the Spurs?
To make matters worse it will probably be Donnie.
Realistically i think Okafor, while being far from a perfec fit (cause perfect fit for Pop Scheme would be Kevin Love) is and will be for the next 3 years th best Big the Spurs will have at reach (i mean realistically speaking). And if that costs the owner an extra 7 millions, we should go for it.
With Okafor on the team, TD will surelly take a paycut and play an extra one or two years, same for Ginobili who seems still productive. That should be enough to pull the trigger, gave this players another chance after the way the FO missed on both Scola and RJ.
Plus, Okafor is a much better asset than RJ, Blair (or Cory Joseph) and Anderson cobined.
Te only thing that tickles me is loosing RJ. Yes, as far as he has been a fiasco this is perhaps his most consistent season in defense and seems to finally understood his place on the team. But as said before, Okafor might be the best big SA could have a shoot to for a forseable future.
I don't even think NOLA wants to trade him. They don't want Kaman and he is not in their long-term plans. If they trade Okafor, who the heck plays Center for them ?
Jason Smith ?
He is overpaid, but 3y/40m for a Center like him is not outrageous at all considering how much decent Centers get paid in the NBA.
Plus, we have nothing to get him considering the fact that they don't want any part of Jefferson
Okafor would guarantee us a le if we didn't give up the big 3, Kawhi, or Tiago and everyone is healthy. Assuming Blair would be shipped out, a 3 headed monster of Duncan, Okafor, and Splitter is very solid.
It's not going to happen but it would be sweet
For those saying Amnesty RJ > Okafor... What do you think we can get in the off-season that's better than Okafor?
"Tim Duncan would re-work his contract if Okafor came to San Antonio. For Duncan, having Okafor coming to play alongside him in his twilight years, would be similar to how things ended for David Robinson."
Wow, really?
You're kidding right?
This was written by Howard Alperin
THE Howard ALperin
Howard Alperin is Managing Editor of AmericanizeSoccer.com
To clarify I meant this in terms of what ownership would think. Obviously if you can flip RJ's rotting corpse for a useful bigman, you do it. Okafor isn't perfect but he's certainly better than what RJ will give you.
But unfortunately that amnesty clause will cause Holt and co. to balk at such a deal. It'd be impossible to sell the idea of absorbing that salary when the FO doesn't know how much it will cost to re-sign Duncan.
agreed..In my opinion the spurs would gladly use RJ's cap room and then some for Okafor and possibly make up the difference in amnestying Bonner. Bonner would get most of his current contract picked up by someone and the spurs would lose very little while addressing the position most in need.
I'd of thought the FO has been negotiating this with Duncan for a while surely?
Go after Hibbert
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