european supporters vs american supporters

[turkish spurs fan]

european supporters americans. sad but true

3 days ago galatasaray-beşiktaş soccer match:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dZ1g...ature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGJJAeBGRn0

you'll say this one is a basketball platform ok.

2 moths ago galatasaray barcelona euroleague game:

http://www.hizliupload.com/di-HKCU.jpg

2 weeks ago galatasaray cksa moscow euroleague game

https://twitter.com/#!/KukreyenAslan...703552/photo/1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiCmq6pMaF8

nba fans just say "DEEEEFENSEE DEEEFENSEEEE".

ok nba is the best basketball organization but your supporters, fans are awful : ((( sad but true

[Hooks]

The poorer the fans the better, the rich people buy out all the tickets and just text on their phones all game long. Plus most Europeans are nationalists so they're extremely passionate about their teams and what they represent.

I googled season ticket prices for soccer games

Here are the top 8 most expensive season tickets for the 2010-11 Premier League season:

1. Arsenal, £1,825 ($2,911)
2. Tottenham, £1,695 ($2,704)
3. Chelsea, £1,210 ($1,930)
4. Newcastle, £975 ($1,555)
5. Man United, £931 ($1,485)
6. Fulham, £899 ($1,434)
7. West Ham, £850 ($1,356)
8. Liverpool, £785 ($1,252)

Season tickets to the Bulls games:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/tickets/seasons.html

$7,200 is the max followed by $6,750, $5,400 etc.

It's probably waaaay more for Heat/Lakers games.

Playoff games are much more expensive. Those Euroleague basketball games cost very little to attend.

Watch college basketball if you want to see passionate fans, it's filled with mostly students, the tickets aren't that expensive either.

[Muser]

The best atmosphere i've ever had was at a football game, NBA fans/turnouts are pretty ty from what i've seen on the T.V.

[InK]

The poorer the fans the better, the rich people buy out all the tickets and just text on their phones all game long. Plus most Europeans are nationalists so they're extremely passionate about their teams and what they represent.

I googled season ticket prices for soccer games

Here are the top 8 most expensive season tickets for the 2010-11 Premier League season:

1. Arsenal, £1,825 ($2,911)
2. Tottenham, £1,695 ($2,704)
3. Chelsea, £1,210 ($1,930)
4. Newcastle, £975 ($1,555)
5. Man United, £931 ($1,485)
6. Fulham, £899 ($1,434)
7. West Ham, £850 ($1,356)
8. Liverpool, £785 ($1,252)

Season tickets to the Bulls games:

http://www.nba.com/bulls/tickets/seasons.html

$7,200 is the max followed by $6,750, $5,400 etc.

It's probably waaaay more for Heat/Lakers games.

Playoff games are much more expensive. Those Euroleague basketball games cost very little to attend.

Watch college basketball if you want to see passionate fans, it's filled with mostly students, the tickets aren't that expensive either.

Thats like 16 home games vs 41 home games ratio

[sefant77]

Aris is fuuuun

[NewcastleKEG]

The best atmosphere i've ever had was at a football game, NBA fans/turnouts are pretty ty from what i've seen on the T.V.

NFL is making the same mistakes NBA did. Too much scoreboard/loud music going on. The fans are too busy watching than to cheer or do chants. Only a handful of NBA arenas still do that stuff (Boston)

I read about this exact problem with Gillette Stadium in New England. The home field advantage that Foxboro had, was destroyed by the much larger w/more sky boxes feel in the new hi-tech stadium.

This ALWAYS holds true in sports. More commercialized = Less fan participation

No one commercializes their sports like America

[Ozzy]

Partizan fans are also a must in this topic

[pass1st]

Europeans have fanatic nationalism while USA just doesn't give a most of the time. Best comparison to Euro events would be college events over here.

[JJ Hickson]

When you're from a hole like Turkey and your country is only known for genocide and incest I guess you have to have something to take pride in. Congratulations on coming from a country of uncivilized animals and successfully translating that to a sporting environment.

[pass1st]

When you're from a hole like Turkey and your country is only known for genocide and incest I guess you have to have something to take pride in. Congratulations on coming from a country of uncivilized animals and successfully translating that to a sporting environment.

Greece is the true hole of Europe right now. Bankruptcy and legalized pedophilia, can't get worse.

[NewcastleKEG]

Europeans have fanatic nationalism while USA just doesn't give a most of the time. Best comparison to Euro events would be college events over here.

Few issues why because I haven't been to many countries that parade their nations flag & constantly lecture the rhetorical ''we are the greatest, freeist, blah blah'', more than America

A) Many American athletes are nothing more than paid missionaries. So hard to get behind a guy who has no connection to America except he uses in-door facilities here

B) Too many sports in America. Hard to focus attention on a few

C) Americans very fickle. If you aren't in the championship debate then Americans won't watch

D) Europeans are in general more passionate people. Europe = Riots. America = Occupies

[NewcastleKEG]

When you're from a hole like Turkey and your country is only known for genocide and incest I guess you have to have something to take pride in. Congratulations on coming from a country of uncivilized animals and successfully translating that to a sporting environment.

As someone who has actually been to Turkey. Thanks for the insight ignorant American. Maybe one day you will be lucky enough to leave north america & see these '' holes''

[baseline bum]

our fans don't throw ing toilet paper on the court

[JJ Hickson]

Greece is the true hole of Europe right now. Bankruptcy and legalized pedophilia, can't get worse.

Greece have been the kings of pedophilia since the beginning of recorded history. These things we know. TBF child ing is discouraged in Turkey, unless it's your cousin.

[JJ Hickson]

As someone who has actually been to Turkey. Thanks for the insight ignorant American. Maybe one day you will be lucky enough to leave north america & see these '' holes''

@ you feeling special or accomplished because you've traveled. zomg u must be liek teh only 1!!!!111 You must be a head of state or something to possess such amazing privileges and insight. Please teach me some of your wisdom. Also while you are at it please feel free to debunk any of the facts I stated in the post you quoted.

[pass1st]

Greece have been the kings of pedophilia since the beginning of recorded history. These things we know. TBF child ing is discouraged in Turkey, unless it's your cousin.

Sounds like Arkansas, tbh. Probably why that manuforever lives there

[NewcastleKEG]

@ you feeling special or accomplished because you've traveled. zomg u must be liek teh only 1!!!!111 You must be a head of state or something to possess such amazing privileges and insight. Please teach me some of your wisdom. Also while you are at it please feel free to debunk any of the facts I stated in the post you quoted.

Actually, yeah I do feel smarter, more accomplished & cultured than you. You judge people/nation based on what someone else had to say about it. I spent my money on a trip & experienced it first hand.

You probably spent your money on Jordans, Vegas or a new TV, like most Americans do in this hole.

[JJ Hickson]

Maybe one day you will be lucky enough to leave north america & see these '' holes''

our fans don't throw ing toilet paper on the court

tbf that's what you do with holes, you throw toilet paper in them.

[Ryan Fitzpatrick]

Turkey does love a good genocide...JJ's right about det. Can't speak to the incest part, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me.

[NewcastleKEG]

Turks = a little of Europe, Asian & Africa. Truly astonishing. At one point it was the central of the globe

Far cry from America and it's seclusion in land.

[baseline bum]

And now they're only known for their pros utes. Such a downfall.

[pass1st]

Turks = a little of Europe, Asian & Africa. Truly astonishing. At one point it was the central of the globe

Far cry from America and it's seclusion in land.

Pales in comparison to this empire

[JJ Hickson]

Still waiting for you to debunk the things I said you smelly genocidal cousin ing Turkish .

[JJ Hickson]

TURKEY tr-national
A hidden secret in Turkey: Incest

ISTANBUL - Radikal | 4/24/2011 12:00:00 AM | ELİF EKİNCİ
The film ‘Merry go round’ by İlksen Başarır has brought a secret fact of Turkey to the surface, incest, and the number of victims is not small by any count.
A new Turkish film has put a spotlight on one of the country’s taboo subjects: incest. Shedding light on the subject is a difficult task, but scriptwriter for “Merry go round” Mert Fırat said they sought to turn a piece of conventional wisdom upside down in their film.
Many people believe incest happens in low-income families, but recent research has shown that incest can happen in any family at any level of society.
“There are two main characters in the family, but nobody knows what their job is. When the incidents take place is unclear. Likewise, which town it is. We thought it would be wrong to emphasize any of these. From the most illiterate to the most educated, incest can be seen in any part of society. So, we preferred to focus on a middle-class family,” Fırat said.
The film “Merry go round,” by director İlksen Başarır, recently hit theaters in Turkey. It comes following a wave of research on incest in Turkey.
One such report, led “Understanding the Question of Molestation in Turkey” prepared for the Demography Association by Alanur Çavlin Bozbeyoğlu in 2009, features many examples of incest in the country.
One excerpt tells the story of a young girl and her grandfather. “There was a girl, 11 or 12 years old. She was sent to a village and she stayed there for a while. Her grandfather was in the village. He molested the girl. He was 65 or 70 years old. At 13 or 14, she finally told her family about the situation. It was covered and she was forced to get married through a religious wedding of course. But the grandfather continued molesting her even after her marriage. She got pregnant from the grandfather. The girl couldn’t say no out of respect for he is the eldest in the family and so everyone should have respect for him in the family.”
Another excerpt tells about a father’s serial behavior. “A person had five daughters. He started to molest them when they were 3 or 4 years old. He stopped when each reached 9 or 10 and developed a notion of sexuality and continues with the others so on so forth. Therefore, he molested all five of them.”
Bozbeyoğlu’s report was prepared based on countrywide face-to-face interviews with 89 participants including school counselors, forensic experts, police officers, prosecutors and psychologists who have experience in incest cases. The report emphasized that all the while incest has existed, it has been denied.
Studies like this one have shown time and again that in most incest cases the victims are female. As well, incest can be seen in any neighborhood. The reason behind the misperception of incest being rarely seen in upper-level social cultural circles is that such circles are better at covering up the incest cases.
Scriptwriter Fırat, who also plays a role in “Merry go round,” in an interview with daily Hürriyet, said the cast took special effort to avoid making generalizations in the film.
“We did not want to give anyone any ideas about people who sexually abuse their children having such-and-such occupation or belonging to such-and-such social class or adopting such-and-such political views. Because, through research and studies, we’ve realized that there are millions of reasons for incest; like desire for power, impotency, hating his/her partner in a marriage, or suicidal tendencies. The only real data is that 70 percent of these men were sexually abused when they were children. In other words, this is a deadlock. Abuse causes abuse. The responsibility of the state is to break the deadlock,” Fırat said.

[JJ Hickson]

According to researchers from Leiden University, a quarter of Turks marry a relative.