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  1. #26
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    Celts value him above other people. They think he's on the order of a chris paul or a derron williams. He's not. He's damn good point guard with issues though.
    Paul & Williams couldn't find big time with both hands and a road map. Paul just looks good not doing it, and Williams is waiting for somebody to take him.

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    If being a winner means being lucky enough to play on a team with three hall of famers on it, then the term is meaningless.
    Who, Kobe or Rondo? Oh that's right, Kobe lost with three hall of famers.

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    He won one le as the fourth best player on his team. How does that make him a winner?
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    Paul & Williams couldn't find big time with both hands and a road map. Paul just looks good not doing it, and Williams is waiting for somebody to take him.
    again, what did Rondo do that makes him so great? When he actually played a big part in the Finals, his team lost. The Lakers dared him to shoot in Game 7, and he made a brick house.

    Yes, that's why you love him so much; he did more to insure a Lakers Championship than you ever did.

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    again, what did Rondo do that makes him so great? When he actually played a big part in the Finals, his team lost. The Lakers dared him to shoot in Game 7, and he made a brick house.

    Yes, that's why you love him so much; he did more to insure a Lakers Championship than you ever did.
    If Perkins plays in game seven the Celtics win the le and Rondo is the Finals MVP. Also Rondo hit a huge three in Game 7 to keep it to a one possession game until the Machine came in and knocked down those FTs. Not saying he has a jump shot or anything cause he doesn't but your argument is so off base and this is coming from a Laker player.

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    Rondo hit that three when his team was down five points. The complete offensive meltdown already happened. Too little, too late.

    If Rondo had a reliable jumper, he might be a two-time champion, but it didnt turn out like that.

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    Rondo hit that three when his team was down five points. The complete offensive meltdown already happened. Too little, too late.

    If Rondo had a reliable jumper, he might be a two-time champion, but it didnt turn out like that.
    Too little to late cause Perkins wasn't in there to control the rim the whole game instead still somehow out of shape Rasheed Wallace was. That is what lost that game and series. Not Rondo.

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    Rondo was given several open jumpers that game, and he bricked them. The Celtics still had a chance to win that series, but the alleged "winner" couldn't become a reliable offensive weapon when it mattered.

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    Rondo was given several open jumpers that game, and he bricked them. The Celtics still had a chance to win that series, but the alleged "winner" couldn't become a reliable offensive weapon when it mattered.
    I'm not backing up some winner or whatever all I'm saying is that dude is off to discredit him like that when if the team were healthy they win that game and series and he's the finals MVP. Even without Perkins they were a couple plays going their way from winning.

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    The whole "winner" thing was my entire point.

  11. #36
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    again, what did Rondo do that makes him so great? When he actually played a big part in the Finals, his team lost. The Lakers dared him to shoot in Game 7, and he made a brick house.

    Yes, that's why you love him so much; he did more to insure a Lakers Championship than you ever did.
    Uh, uh. You have Rondo mixed up with Allen. I loved Ray much more.

    tee, hee.

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    The whole "winner" thing was my entire point.
    Oh I didn't mean to out I was just making the point that he deserves more credit than he's getting. He's a pretty damn good player. Seems kinda like a got or something though. Doesn't he spend like eight hours in the woodshed a day rollerblading every off season or something Could swear I saw a video on that .

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    Rondo was given several open jumpers that game, and he bricked them. The Celtics still had a chance to win that series, but the alleged "winner" couldn't become a reliable offensive weapon when it mattered.
    Ray Allen showed him the way.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    Okay, so you admit that Rondo also cost his team the le. Thank you.

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    Okay, so you admit that Rondo also cost his team the le. Thank you.
    Crawl, mother er, crawl!!!!!!!!!!

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    it's absolutely hilarious that you think that merely claiming that you're in control of a situation makes it true.

    I asked you why Rondo didn't use his winning spirit to win Game 7, and you haven't answered me. Until you give an answer, everything else you post is meaningless.

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    Have always loved Rondos game, epitome of a PG and Top 5 at his position easily. You dont build around him but hes the guy you want setting up your big guns. He doesnt back down from anyone either. Im with Brazil, I dont understand why the Cs would want to get rid of him either.
    Last edited by FkLA; 03-04-2012 at 08:18 AM.

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    See, Red forgot about Allen. He forgot because Media kept Allen safe after Game 7. There was no % in tearing him down. They'd been waiting on Bryant's 6 for 24 ass, and couldn't wait to tease and poke Artest in his life cage. Simmons lickin' his chops at the head of the pack. The story was written, Bryant, Artest and Vuj just grabbed the copy and crumpled it.

    Ipso fact, Media didn't have to go home, but, they had to get the outta there.

    tee, hee.

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    Long, Dark Blues redzero's Avatar
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    what about Ray Allen? Did Ray Allen make Rondo miss those wide open jump shots that the Lakers dared him to shoot?

    The Celtics offense collapsed. I want to know why the player you called a "winner" didn't capitalize on the several opportunities the Lakers gave him. Do you have any answer, Dale, or are you going to blame Rondo's performance on somebody else?

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    Have always loved Rondos game, epitome of a PG and Top 5 at his position easily. You dont build around him but hes the guy you want setting up your big guns. He doesnt back down from anyone either. Im with Brazil, I dont understand why the Cs would want to get rid of him either.
    + he's cold blooded, huh, FL?



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    what about Ray Allen? Did Ray Allen make Rondo miss those wide open jump shots that the Lakers dared him to shoot?

    The Celtics offense collapsed. I want to know why the player you called a "winner" didn't capitalize on the several opportunities the Lakers gave him. Do you have any answer, Dale, or are you going to blame Rondo's performance on somebody else?
    When you address the elephant next to your CPU named Ray Allen, I'll entertain you. Until then, Mr. Zero, uh, uh. Not on your sweet bippy.

    tee, hee.

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    thinking I'm afraid of knocking Ray Allen's performance.

    Yes, he played like .

    Now, stop stalling and answer my question. Why didn't the cold-blooded winner known as Rajon Rondo not capitalize on the numerous opportunities that the Lakers gave him?

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    thinking I'm afraid of knocking Ray Allen's performance.

    Yes, he played like .

    Now, stop stalling and answer my question. Why didn't the cold-blooded winner known as Rajon Rondo not capitalize on the numerous opportunities that the Lakers gave him?
    That's not enough and you know it. I caught you tiptoeing thru the tulips and I want a complete accounting. Until I receive said accounting your adorable ass is on the carpet.

    Let us proceed...

  25. #50
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    my entire ing point is that Rajon Rondo is not good enough to lead a team to a Championship, and you think I'm afraid to acknowledge how poorly Ray Allen played? Do you not understand where I'm going with this?

    My argument that Rajon Rondo isn't a winner presupposes that the Big Three aren't there to carry him. Ray Allen playing like helps my argument, Dale. Here are the scenarios:

    1.) the Big Three and Rondo play well, and the Celtics win game seven.
    -- That's not conclusive enough for either side.

    2.) the Big Three play poorly but Rondo does what he has to do to win game seven.
    -- That would have happened if Rondo was actually the cold-blooded winner you claim he is.

    3.) the Big Three play poorly and Rondo does not come through and lead his team to victory.
    -- What actually happened and the evidence that Rondo is not a winner.

    Trying to scapegoat Ray Allen completely undermines your argument, because you are claiming that Rajon "the winner" Rondo needed the Big Three to win the championship.

    I am claiming that without the Big Three carrying him, Rondo doesnt have what it takes to get done what he needs to get done. Ray Allen played like and the Celtics didn't win as a result, which proves my point that Rondo couldn't get done as the leading man.

    Now, stop stalling and answer my question.

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