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I'll set the bar even lower. Just find a decent third big like Dice from last year. Splitter can fill the PF spot.
We bashed the guy for his awful hands down low and all his stupid pump fakes, but the fact is we wouldn't have won the le in 2005 if not for the trade where we got Nazr Mohammad for Malik Rose who was done by then.
Now, Blair is our Malik. He's undersized and too unathletic to play. He's lost his explosiveness, what little he ever had, and he's just a liability now at both ends. Tim protects him as much as he can, and it's to Duncan's credit that even at 36 he's still an asset out there, but he can't work miracles with around him, and make no mistake, both Blair and Jefferson are absolute dog .
We're one big short right now to be legit contenders. Somehow, some way, we need to get a guy who can start next to Tim and shore up our defense and rebounding. Splitter can be the 3rd big and Bonner the 4th.
If we don't find a way to make a trade, whether it's Okafor or someone of that ilk, then we've got zero chance. It's that simple.
I'll set the bar even lower. Just find a decent third big like Dice from last year. Splitter can fill the PF spot.
Watching Kenyon Martin play a masterful role (in 20 minutes roughly) last week makes me think he would have been the ideal fit here in SA. I bet Pop probably gave barely a half hearted effort at obtaining him, considering all he took was a 1 year 2.5m deal from the clippers.
Same old story. Other teams make moves to get better while Pop plays patty cake with his favorite .
No Isiah Thomases around these days.
Yeah, we need to get ride of Blair and James Anderson. Blair is always going to be a mismatch in the playoffs cuz of his size and erratic play and Anderson never really plays anyways, and can't make a three to save his soul, so might as well ship em off both.
"Miracle? Here it is; I'm going to DOUBLE Matty's minutes in the playoffs!!!"
Spurs have the same match-up weaknesses as last year, they do not want to face against a big or athletic team.
The Grizz had both of those advantages. For some reason everyone underates just how athletic the Grizz were especially in the backcourt, they were like pitbulls and the Spurs looked like they were playing in slow motion compared to them. The Grizz frontcourt had size, depth, and youth that overpowered and frustrated Duncan/Dice/etc, and the Grizz bigs were even good at midrange too. Luckily there are no Western teams that are as athletic and big as the Grizz were last season, and the Spurs do have Leonard/Splitter playing significant mins to help.
But the Spurs need another legit big and health to truly contend, sounds like the same old song and dance for the past few seasons. They could also use good old luck, the Lakers size is going to be a nightmare
Well see within the next 10 days. So if we don't get one what are you Gona and stop watching the spurs because we have "0" chance. Man this is sports anything can happen the lakers got the best front court in the league and ain't Gona do a dam thing. Just sit back and let it unfold. These our the last years of our golden years and I'm enjoying every minute. Dam Timmy still kickin ass and Manu Gona be a beast come playoff time. Matchups are everything and sometimes all you need is a little luck.
Not seeing it tbh. I called a thunder triumph last year, pointing out their frontline capabilities were on par (or better) than the grizz.
The thunder, mavs & lakers could have all taken out the grizzlies last year. All could equally match the grizz's size and physicality in the frontcourt.
But if it makes you feel better and helps you sleep at night to imagine the grizzlies were far superior to everyone else by all means keep doing so.
if only NOH would take n' Blair for Kaman...
Whoever is thinking Splitter or any new big we could realistically get will be in front of Bonner in the bigmen rotation when it matters are just lying to themselves.
OKC is, arguably, just as big and more athletic. They don't have the offensive low post game, but they have better low post defenders. Harden is playing crazy well off the bench and it's become incredibly tough to beat them in their place.
A healthy Denver is another team with the same mix of bigs/athleticism. Portland comes to mind too, although at a lower tier.
Again gray Spurs fans focus on the Grizz frontcourt while widely underrating the Grizz backcourt. Grizz had the athletes on the perimeter and size in the paint to hurt the unhealthy Spurs, it was a terrible match up...grizz even tanked to see the silver and black
Grizz don't concern me as much because they lost a key piece in Battier and the jury is still out on Rudy Gay making them better. Plus ZBo coming back this season isn't a sure-thing either.
I'm not focusing on anything but your assertion that there were no western conference teams that could match up with the grizz frontline, which is patently untrue.Again gray Spurs fans focus on the Grizz frontcourt while widely underrating the Grizz backcourt. Grizz had the athletes on the perimeter and size in the paint to hurt the unhealthy Spurs, it was a terrible match up...grizz even tanked to see the silver and black
And as far as the spurs go, technically they also had guys who could have better matched up (Splitter) but simply weren't used for whatever reason (until it was far too late).
Yea there's a reason why OKC is favored out of the West but the frontcourt comparisons don't hold much for me. Marc Gasol, Zach Randolph, and Arthur are much tougher match up problems for the Spurs than the offensive liabilities that OKC put on the court.
Portland always puts up a fight and it'll be the same in the playoffs, Denver is going to struggle when they need go-to scoring.
But yea Spurs really don't want to match up against any athletic and/or big team, but tbh none of the teams out West really seem as good as the Grizz were last year in those areas
Last edited by Cane; 03-05-2012 at 11:01 AM.
If thats all you focused on then you need to check your reading comprehension, I didn't write that
That would've been nice but the Spurs would still have gotten abused by the Grizz backcourt, Parker struggled just to bring the ball up the court, and tbh the Grizz frontcourt would still have overpowered the SpursAnd as far as the spurs go, technically they also had guys who could have better matched up (Splitter) but simply weren't used for whatever reason (until it was far too late).
As far as OKC is concerned, theres two ends on the court. While Ibaka/Perkins might be very limited offensively, they're terrific defenders for the most part. You actually also have to think how the Spurs matchup with them. Perkins is likely more than capable of guarding TD inside and that leaves Ibaka to swat anything that comes into the paint. To counter that, Spurs normally play either Bonner or smallball trying to draw Ibaka out of the paint (which, as we know by now, teams don't really do in the playoffs).
The only issue OKC has is Westbrook being kinda dumb at times. But they can score and Harden is lining up the 6th man award right now.
^To me that is the same claim.
Bull .
OKC has more issues than just Westbrook, you even brought it up earlier - their lack of post scoring is going to hurt especially in the playoffs, they also rely a lot on finesse like jumpers.
Imo the Spurs will abuse Perkins on both ends of the court, a healthy Duncan or Splitter has enough in their arsenal to make Perkins look like a fool but Ibaka will be lurking.
Tbh where did I write "that there were no western conference teams that could match up with the grizz frontline"? Seems like I just wrote that there were no West team that were as athletic AND as big as the Grizz were
And sorry, Splitter wouldn't have saved the Grizz series. Dude would've been abused like Duncan and Dice were tbh
Splitting hairs.Tbh where did I write "that there were no western conference teams that could match up with the grizz frontline"? Seems like I just wrote that there were no West team that were as athletic AND as big as the Grizz were
Oh come now, Duncan got abused because he was gassed by the 2nd quarter of every game trying to cover Gasol by himself plus play off and give constant help to Bonner/Blair/Dice/whoever. I think Splitter would have helped tremendously if for no other reason than Duncan could have stayed home and guarded Zbo and not had to help off constantly. And maybe Zbo doesn't get into a zone by the 2nd half of every damn game that way and become unstoppable by the 4th quarters.
I love how you claim Splitter would have been such a failure when guys such as spur leftover of yesteryear Nazr Mohammed and all-star Nick Collison managed to succeed.
I disagree completely. Lack of post scoring can be offset by great post defense. They have that. We have neither.
Disagree. Perkins isn't Boston's Perkins, but he's more than serviceable.
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