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    I mean after hearing the full quote, I guess I kinda get what he's saying. Carmelo Anthony's supposed to be best scorer in the NBA elite, Amar'e is essentially a career 25 and 8 guy. Tyson Chandler's a defensive big who had a big part in the championship he won last year. Jeremy Lin, is one of the biggest names in basketball right now regardless of his actual skill set. Steve Novak's getting a lot of hype lately because he's been scoring at a solid rate with Lin there and to the fact that he's probably the best shooter in the world. I have no idea how Baron Davis is doing, I doubt he's done though. He's probably a solid backup PG. Landry Fields, JR Smith, and Bill Walker gives them solid depth at the two guard position.

    Now I don't really agree that they've got better personnel than the Spurs per se, but I see where he's coming from.

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    Because of Pop and some great vet leadership, the whole Spurs' team is mostly playing a right way and it helps them to overcome their relative lack of talent.
    What???

    This can't be right! Spurs fans think Popovich is a hard-headed moron. He can't possibly have anything to do with his team's continuing ability to play at a high level.

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    Yeah I agree, he's right... Just look at our starters, we seem to have a different 2 every 2 weeks, and we constantly get poor play from our 3 and 4... technically they are more talented, but talent is nothing without great coaching and teamwork.

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    Wait...Amare said that AFTER the game? That guy is a joke. I'll never forget his push-up taunt and subsequent Manu beat-down.

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    The worst max contract player in NBA history.
    Sorry man; Kemp was way worse. Brian Grant too.

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    Allan Houston and Eddie Jones were probably worse also.

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    I mean after hearing the full quote, I guess I kinda get what he's saying.
    Yeah, if you think a real basketball team is just like a fantasy basketball team.

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    Full quote (which makes more sense)

    "You watch San Antonio," Stoudemire said. "They don't have nearly enough talent to compete with us. Our talent level, personnel, is off the charts. But what they do well is they keep the floor spaced and make sure those guys execute the plays."

    "That's something we've got to do, keep the floor spaced and keep the ball moving and get everyone involved."
    This is exactly why I can't stand dishonest journalism.

    The full quote isn't nearly as bad as "The Spurs don't have enough talent to compete with us, our talent rocks!!!"

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    Sometimes the insecurity of a fanbase whose team has won four les in the last 13 seasons is astonishing.

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    Full quote (which makes more sense)

    "You watch San Antonio," Stoudemire said. "They don't have nearly enough talent to compete with us. Our talent level, personnel, is off the charts. But what they do well is they keep the floor spaced and make sure those guys execute the plays."

    "That's something we've got to do, keep the floor spaced and keep the ball moving and get everyone involved."
    When you read it in context, it makes sense.

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    Huge fail on the sport writer's part, drubbing up controversy that isn't there. Really hate it when these guys use out of context quotes like that to make their ty articles more interesting.

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    No, sorry, this isn't "out of context". Putting it fully mellows it a little, but the quote hasn't been taken "out of context", it's simply been curtailed. That would have been, eg.

    "The Spurs are a great team. I mean, it's easy to look at them and be tempted to think they don't have nearly enough talent to compete with us. Our talent level, personell, is off the charts.... etc"

    Because there is a specific context into which the quote has been placed, which when removed means that the information will be misunderstood.


    Amar'e really was saying that the New York Knicks have vastly more talent in comparison to the Spurs. He was wrong, and we shouldn't bail him out by accepting the sort of lame back-handed insult-turned-compliments you usually throw a team you've blown out, but he has the hubris to say after a resounding loss.

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    I've had friends who are Knicks fans who creamed their jeans when Amare and then Carmelo came to the Knicks. I told them it would be a net negative for the Knicks and a net positive for the teams they left, the Suns and the Nuggets. I was right on both counts.
    The Suns went from the conference finals to the lottery after they let Amare leave, so you'd have to be extremely re ed to say you were "right" about the Suns benefiting from Amare leaving.

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    Yeah I agree, he's right... Just look at our starters, we seem to have a different 2 every 2 weeks, and we constantly get poor play from our 3 and 4... technically they are more talented, but talent is nothing without great coaching and teamwork.
    I think that was his point

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    Amare continues display a low BBIQ - both on and off the court. If both Amare and Carmelo devoted half as much attention to defense as they both do to offense, perhaps the Knicks would be better. In the end, it all goes back to their head coach - the man with 3 first names.
    The Knicks have the 9th best defensive rating in the NBA and the 23rd best offensive rating in the NBA.

    Yeah that's it! Defense must be the problem!

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    CROFL Suns are better without Amare? You can say that about Melo, but Suns really miss Amare's presence.

    After hearing the full quote, I don't see anything wrong about what Stoudemire said.

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    Pre-Carmelo, Stoudemire was bandied about as an MVP candidate, and not just because of New York. From November to January of 2010-11 Amare was highly efficient offensively, scoring 24-29 ppg on 50-54% shooting, with 9-10 rpg, 2-3 bpg and 1+ spg. Knicks were over .500 with Amare as their star.

    Enter Anthony, and Amare's scoring efficiency plummets, touches decline, and, when Amare isn't fully motivated himself, his peripherals suffer, and D'Antoni sure as isn't going to inspire him to defend, rebound, play passionately. Knicks are sub .500 with Anthony.

    I know people love to hate Amare... but look at the rosters. He's not inaccurate in saying that New York has more talent. They have three star players supposedly in the dominant prime (Amare, Anthony, Chandler) and several young talents (Lin, Smith, Fields, Shumpert) and yet they get trounced because of all the little things the Spurs do so well that D'Antoni continues to ignore.

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    This is exactly why I can't stand dishonest journalism.

    The full quote isn't nearly as bad as "The Spurs don't have enough talent to compete with us, our talent rocks!!!"
    He can say this kind of stuff all he wants. But he either will not, or cannot accomplish what he says his team must do as an individual player. He is basically touting team play while he personally cant deliver what he thinks is needed. This is rich, in bovine residue.

    Notice there was no mention of defense. Amare, how do you think you played on the defensive end?

    "I totally sucked. I really got to work on that part of my game.."

    Has anyone ever heard this uttered?

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    The Knicks have the 9th best defensive rating in the NBA and the 23rd best offensive rating in the NBA.

    Yeah that's it! Defense must be the problem!
    Watch the frggn games and tell me why NY WAS rated 9th. Tyson Chandler and role players along with Lin in, and Amare and Carmello out.

    NY is still a capable team if Chandler, Jeffries and Shumpert are on the court and play D.

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    Watch the frggn games and tell me why NY WAS rated 9th. Tyson Chandler and role players along with Lin in, and Amare and Carmello out.

    NY is still a capable team if Chandler, Jeffries and Shumpert are on the court and play D.
    New York is rated 9th, meaning they weren't only playing good D when Melo and Amare have been out.

    This year, offense has been the bigger problem for the Knicks.

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    The Suns went from the conference finals to the lottery after they let Amare leave, so you'd have to be extremely re ed to say you were "right" about the Suns benefiting from Amare leaving.
    Well considering you and others are claiming Amare is "on the decline" or "no longer in his prime" even though he's still young, it would make a lot more sense as to why the Suns let him go.

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    The Suns went from the conference finals to the lottery after they let Amare leave, so you'd have to be extremely re ed to say you were "right" about the Suns benefiting from Amare leaving.
    The Suns didn't want to let Stoudemire leave. They just didn't want to give 100M for a guy with an injury history. NY didn't care and gave him the 100M anyway. Now Stoudemire has been relatively healthy it seems like a gamble the Suns took and lost.

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    New York is rated 9th, meaning they weren't only playing good D when Melo and Amare have been out.

    This year, offense has been the bigger problem for the Knicks.
    Their defense is awful without Chandler. They have absolutely no one to guard the rim. Carmello caught on a backdoor against Leonard while just wandering around. It has got to be seriously depressing to watch this team play D. We ran very basic plays and just killed them. Amare is a HUGE liability.

    I have seen the difference.

    This is not the Los Angeles Lakers. They really do have a problem offensively and their D keeps them close. And I have no idea what they are rated.

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